Threads

NEWS: First wave of contracts totalling $4.4M under the $118M IRS BPA were awarded to Fedstack, Gauntlet AI, Fearless, and Sokat. Codesmith with no reported contracts.

Reddit Founder Alexis Ohanian calls out r/codingbootcamp manipulation by former mod. Codesmith student describes feeling “stalked” publicly on LinkedIn

📢 BREAKING: Codesmith shutdown. Removes all immersive programs from website, blog posts, community, and content. All previous links 404 and disappeared. The company has completely rebranded as an enterprise AI solutions company.

Pulse Check? I'm not seeing any signs of life from these bootcamps, and I wanted to do a check if anyone is a 2026 student/grad of these programs.

</BOOTCAMPS> ❤️ OFFICIAL MEMORIAL POST: share this around and tell your old bootcamp stories in the comments. So we can close the bootcamp chapter on a positive note.

CODESMITH: Can you please shut down CSX? It's spewing out user data and content and hasn't been updated in years.

I'm looking for a boot camp that i can physically attend.

Outco, a paid SWE interview prep bootcamp, took down all of their former students' testimonials from their website.

Thoughts on this blog post alleging harassment (and worse) against Codesmith?

Question for the SEO community: is this normal?

A Response to Lars Lofgren's Codesmith Piece

BREAKING: IRS $118M BPA for Hiring and Training - 3 more companies including Gauntlet AI added to join FedStack and Lantec/Codesmith. More companies coming soon.

BREAKING: IRS $118M BPA for Hiring and Training - 3 more companies include Gauntlet AI added to Joining FedStack and Lantec/Codesmith. More companies coming soon.

Is this the most pessimistic careers sub in all of reddit?

I said I would respond when I can, and I did with 8000 words/evidence debunking Lars' claims. **A Response to Lars Lofgren's Codesmith Piece.**

Codesmith launched their new website and it shifts focus to "enterprise" AI consulting, burying all their individual programs.

The Story of Codesmith: How a Competitor Crippled a $23.5M Bootcamp By Becoming a Reddit Moderator

Should Michael Novati remain a moderator of this subreddit?

How do you make bootcamp projects sound less like homework in interviews?

No CIRR 2024-25 reports? Never taken this long for them to come out, and CIRR did not respond within 2 days to my request for comment prior to publication of this.

Who Owns Codesmith? A Court Fight Takes Us Under the Hood to the Hard Parts

Who Owns Codesmith? A Court Fight Takes Us Under the Hood to the Hard Parts

The West Coast Hack Reactor Remote 19-week cohort that graduated on October 9, 2025 is the first Hack Reactor cohort that I know of where 100% of its graduates failed to find a paid SWE job within 6 months of graduation from Hack Reactor.

Has anyone done the Software Engineering Bootcamp through University of Chicago / HyperionDev?

Have/Are coding bootcamps taking advantage of people's need for instant gratification?

Codefinity Refund Experience Is It a Scam or Legit?

The Extinction (or Execution?) of The Junior Engineer - from your friendly neighborhood former moderator

Codesmith Founder on becoming a SWE in the world of AI: "I don't know what the route is to that level [of tacit knowledge] for people not already in the system".

Did I accidentally start my CS career in a dead-end ‘data job’? Trying to figure out where to go from here.

App Academy, advice

AMA: 👋 I'm Michael. Former-moderator of the sub, Facebook top performer, "the Coding Machine", junior -> principal / 2009-2017, helper of bootcamps students and grads, founder of Formation for experienced engineers preparing for interviews.

r/codingbootcamps

NPR podcast about the failure/decline of "learn to code", caution and concern these efforts shifted now to "everyone needs AI fluency", fear-based learning that isn't passion-based (well researched and source-based opinions)

Where/what are you working at while you look for a dev role?

How did you actually practice for the real thing?

DEVELOPING: Codesmith 2024 California Government Outcomes report is out today. Only 12% are placed within 6 months with reported salary (50% including 'no salary information available') but press release also out today says '85% to 90% placement rate within 12 months' 'CIRR verified' (no time frame)

31 y/o Uber Driver in NYC Trying to Become a Software Engineer — Looking for Honest Guidance

BREAKING: Gauntlet AI (BloomTech, f/k/a Lambda School) launched Government Training Program, free program to prepare you for government AI/SWE roles.

DEVELOPING: FedStack and Lantec won up to $118M government contract for non-IT training for the Federal Government/IRS - Codesmith will be involved (conflicting reports)

Coding temple

Finally found a bootcamp that actually worked for me

For those who were in a bootcamp in 2024 and/or 2015 and got a job during or after the bootcamp

sadUnemploymentTears

General Assembly Misrepresents Graduate Outcomes Through LinkedIn Optics

BREAKING: Launch School Capstone 2024 Outcomes

Should I even be considering a coding bootcamp in 2026?

Codesmith is still a scam

Using chatGPT to create a coding bootcamp

Does any bootcamp do ISAs anymore?

This was just the craziest rug pull...

Checking in on Codesmith a year later. After recommending Codesmith for 2 years I stopped recommending them a year ago because of massive staff loss, program cutbacks, and tanking outcomes. A year later, things are even worse 😭.

Best software engineer bootcamp?

Uhhhhh.... BloomTech launched "Gauntlet AI" - free 12 week bootcamp, paid to live in Austin, TX, 100 hours a week, guaranteed $200K job if you finish??? Popcorn ready.

Hack Reactor 2025?

My experience with Masterschool: €28k for 8 months – my honest review

My honest take on breaking into tech.

Launch School H2 2024 grad outcomes. Placement rate within 6 months is lower than 2023 grads (50% versus 75%). Note that the denominator is all people who start, so will do comparisons in the body.

Did a bootcamp, struggling to find work, what are my options?

State of the Bootcamp Market Report: 2024 Statistics and Share Analysis

"Pretend to be a Dev" - business model alternative to bootcamps?

What bootcamps to recommend?

Why is this called coding bootcamp?

Lighthouse Labs (one of Canada's largest coding bootcamps) files for bankruptcy August 1st, 2025 - along with its parent company.

Are Coding bootcamps worth it in 2025? If so which ones?

What is the best coding bootcamp to attend in 2025?

The Codesmith website is back.

👋 AMA: I’m Michael - ex-Meta Principal Engineer + #1 code committer, now co-founder at Formation.dev + interview expert. 📌🎈💥 AI popped the Bootcamp & LeetCode bubbles. Ask me anything about how tech careers have changed in 2025, how to stand out, and what still gets you hired. No 🍬🧥. No 🐂💩

Launch School Capstone announces cutback from 3 cohorts a year to 2 cohorts a year starting in 2026. Acknowledges tough job market, longer job hunts, and new changes to help people get real work experience though internships and open source commitments to to Firefox and large projects.

Nucamp in 2025 Review

Another one bites the dust at Codesmith

Codesmith website down for at least 14 days and their Director of Programs, Academics & Outcomes is leaving

Anyone here tried Bashiri Smith’s JavaScript SWE mentorship? Looking for honest reviews

CodeSmith is still down lol

Codesmith is down and they can't access their AWS because of incompetence. I've had enough of their claims to go from "zero to mid/level senior engineers" when they repeatedly demonstrate lack of engineering competence (this isn't the first incident)

I called out Michael Novati for Formation's own misleading marketing tactics and he deleted all of his comments instead of addressing the issue.

Codesmith Grads - Stop lying on your background checks. Your OSP is not 'employment history'. I've received a number of couple of people having trouble with background checks because they put their project as 'work experience'. STOP.

Who should and shouldn't go to software engineering bootcamps (in 2025). No matter how good a bootcamp seems - or how much you want to do it, these things are DEAL BREAKERS you have to consider before even thinking about doing one.

Asking for Bootcamp Advice in 2025

Almost joined a bootcamp 2025. Changed mind - ROI not worth it

4 years ago I was going to join App Academy. How much of a bullet did I dodge?

Careful out there. Bootcamps are lying.

Avoid Springboard Bootcamps - Insights from a Mentor

Next in the pivot journey: Vibe coding bootcamp?

Hope for bootcamp grads

20 Years in Sales, Pivoting to Coding - AMA

Outco, a software engineer interview preparatory bootcamp, is no longer available in the state of California.

FE Developer with 4 YOE considering a bootcamp

Relearning Javascript what helped you the most?

From behind the scenes at Codesmith: Leadership changes and what’s next

LinkedIn Post - Bootcamps vs. CS Degrees

Career Advice (laid off recently from my tech job)

Codesmith launched cohort 2 of the Future Code NYC program (free bootcamp for NYC residents who make un $50K and have zero coding experience)

Are Launch School and Codesmith the only ones with an Outcomes Report now?

Numerous new warning flags at Codesmith. Concerned they are grasping at straws (Personal Opinion)

Struggling with DSA consistency — anyone want to team up?

4 years in… how to fill in the gaps?

Go to a coding bootcamp in 2025? No!!

Codesmith marketing campaign: "you’re not late to tech". Unfortunately you likely are, and this kind of thing is tone deaf and misleading. Instead of making changes in their program structure they are marketing a 10 year old program structure as if it still works and please don't fall for it.

Why are Bootcamps so Damn Expensive?

CourseReport is a scam in my opinion

Why are you still paying for bootcamps ?

Does joining a coding boot camp for full-stack JS still make sense?

Launch School Placement Date - Q4 2024 Cohort, ~70% placed within six months - similar to previous cohort. Lower salaries at $100K mediums - indicating role shifts. Very strong results given the market but very small program so hard to extrapolate.

Very interested in Launch School capstone, but have questions.

How do graduates get away with fake experience?

BREAKING NEWS: Codesmith 2023 official outcomes published: CANNOT BE WORSE - placement rate crashed from 70% to 29%. Enrollment also tanked over 50%. The software engineering bootcamp era is over.

App Academy Open VS Codesmith Free Courses VS Jonas Udemy vs Odin vs Freecodecamp for a beginner? Or something else?

BREAKING NEWS: Codesmith 2024 six month outcomes preview released – GRADS NAVIGATING A TOUGH MARKET WITH OUTCOMES at $110k SALARY AVERAGE & $55k SALARY GROWTH

Hey guys! I’m interested in a boot camp and need advice

I failed twice at Google, once at Amazon and once at Meta (Seeking for advice)

Success stories from bootcamp grads or CS grads recently?

Career coach?

Turing School of Software and Design abruptly announces closure

Should I believe bootcamps like Codesmith who still claim grads land mid or senior SWE roles in today’s market

Latest SWE salary & hiring data is live: A clearer picture in a tougher tech market

CIRR is back after a 4-5 day outage with a brand new website design and 2023 data. Only 3 schools reporting. In depth analysis of Codesmith's 2023 vs 2022 data in the body.

CIRR website went offline on April 5th, 2025. 2023 results never published. Very sad to see it end like this instead of wrapping up with a goodbye, but it's another sign that the current bootcamp era (12 weeks to a $100K job) is over, and the start of a new one is beginning.

My admission experience w/Codesmith

📌 Netflix x Formation Program is back for 2026 grads in the USA aiming to do SWE internships at Netflix in summer 2025. It's a free part time program over the summer (paid for by Netflix) and the goal is land an internship at Netflix! Applications close Feb 16th.

Advice on js/react…

Questions for Students From FlatIron School

I miss the good old days :(

Recruiter accidently emailed me her secret internal selection guidelines 👀

Coding Temple Bootcamp Review – The Reality Check You Need

Code School Success Stories?

Thinking of dropping out 😬

5 months post CodeSmith, only 1 person got hired

CIRR is dead - missing audited 2022 reports were due last December and they have gone radio silence on where they are 3 months later

Graduated from Codesmith part time a few months back

AI beyond Chatgpt

The Present and Future of the Turing School

Outco Inc shut down in California. May be shut down for good.

Thoughts on this article? The bootcamp space is growing again!

CodeSmith for CS University Graduates

COMMENTARY/UPDATE: Codesmith updated their accepted stats today, 168 offers accepted between March and August 2024 VS 53 in March and April alone. Average base salary in those ranges down to $117K from $119K.

CIRR 2025 Standards out - does not close loopholes to force transparency, only change is one that extends the list of reasons to exclude people from the data and increase placement rates on paper - I don't think anyone cares anymore though :(

Formation.dev suitable for career transition in adjacent fields

'formation.dev' good for senior level engineers?

Meta and Amazon abruptly shut down diversity initiatives, indicating a market shift that's terrible for bootcampers and could be the final straw :(

Hack Reactor released their 2024 Alumni Survey. They also took down their H2 2022 Hiring Outcomes Report.

How to find a entry level software developer job.

Anyone know what's going on with CIRR? H2 2022 Results delayed, two more board members no longer working for their bootcamps - which leaves potentially just Codesmith and Launch Academy left managing CIRR

What I wish my coding bootcamp had done differently?

Recent bootcamp graduates? What was it like? Did you get a job?

Course Report "Best Bootcamp of 2024" awards appear to be a scam to me (in my personal opinion). Don't fall for it.

Some Advice. Bootcamp equals no dev job.

Are interviews indicative of actual job content?

Cost/Benefit Analysis: Free Certificate through University or Accredited Bootcamp with ISA?

Why VC-Backed Bootcamps are F*'d (Insider View)

Formation.dev’s initial experience and Alumni Connections

In a last hope to survive, bootcamps are going all in on "Gen AI" programs aimed at their own alumni - 3.5 major bootcamps pivoting to Gen AI courses (Codesmith, BloomTech, App Academy, Deep Atlas (original Hack Reactor team)). AA and BT have PAUSED all SWE programs as of today (Opinions Inside)

This guy has 2 years experience SWE, on his LinkedIn, 3 years teaching at bloom tech, 0 years experience ML/AI

Codesmith cohort - one year later

Coding bootcamps in San Francisco with IRL component?

Don't attending a coding bootcamp - from a coding bootcamp grad

My Final Review Of Formationdev

This has probably been asked a million times, but what exactly is Formation? What differentiates it?

Can someone put this company out of its misery?

Would a Machine Learning & AI Bootcamp be a good next step?

The AI future right now: I took a self driving taxi home tonight in San Francisco, like many other nights, and passed by 22 other self driving cars. What this means for YOU is extremely complicated.

QUESTIONS FOR App Academy Alum/Ex-employees

What Do Aspiring Coders Need?

THE APP ACADEMY UPDATE 😮‍💨

Interview Prep/Career Accelerator Subreddit?

NYT: Students Paid Thousands for a Caltech Boot Camp. Caltech Didn’t Teach It.

Wins and Appreciations for Friday, Sept 27th

Is TripleTen a scam?

I always wanted to be a bootcamp instructor

Understanding Bootcamp Outcomes in 2024

Tech Jobs After a Bootcamp

Worth considering. And for those with opinions on AI, this is a new model released just this week

Opinions on Formation Fellowship (bootcamp-like program)

Censored by Codesmith

Just signed up for bootcamp (despite the stories on here)….

I went to codesmith got a job and then got laid off

DonTheDeveloper says "r/codingbootcamp is a toxic cess pool in the programming community"

Advice for getting hired in FAANG tech companies without a bootcamp

Tune in to 'Hard Paths' to hear Senior Engineer at Netflix & Tech Speaker, Shaundai Person, & Will Sentance discuss the tech industry and upleveling your tech career

Codesmith actually faking jobs for there graduates now

Why does r/codingbootcamp exist?

A Message To The Moderator Of This Subreddit

Why is Formation.dev Being Recommended in Codesmith's Slack?

Coding bootcamp, or any teaching for that matter, turns out is a really bad business idea

Future Code Codesmith Update 2

Exclusive ex-Meta Engineering poll results: Almost no one is considering AI skills when hiring software engineers at their companies! Bootcamps pivoting to AI might be marketing a fictional gold rush so that they can sell you an expensive shovel that you don't need right now.

A Message From The Codesmith Team To This Community

Navigating the Debate: Bootcamps, Criticism, and Personal Responsibility

A honest nuanced opinion from a former Codesmith resident

All of the jobs are officially gone. What now?

Comparing Outco, Formation, Interview Kickstart, and Pathrise

Noticed this new CodeSmith micro site

Is a Tuition Price Drop Coming for Codesmith?

From Almost Flunking Out of Bootcamp to $200k: My Journey and Encouragement for New Software Engineers

Bootcamp as an addition to Bachelor's?

Current Codesmith residents/recent alumni: how has Codesmith delivered on promised improvements announced earlier this year?

I will start teaching at a popular bootcamp next month, what’s something you wished your instructors would do/know to improve your experience and why?

Can't find a job

Future Code Codesmith Update 1

Intel's Adding Another 15k Surplus Experienced Software Engineers & Programmers To the Market

Accepted to a boot camp. What are the next steps.

Launch School vs 2nd Bachelors in CS?

[➕Moderator Note] Promoting High Integrity: explanation of moderation tools and how we support high integrity interactions in this subreddit.

Hoping to get into a bootcamp as a full time non-tech worker, what should I learn?

Is Formation.dev legitimate?

NEWS: Launch School Official 2023 Outcomes: 75% placement in 6 months but time to placement almost double peak year at 14 weeks (still blows away competition). Impressive transparency. Described changes in response to market in detail and their impact 👏

NEWS: Code Fellows has ceased operations and shut down. Ending an 11 year legacy.

🚨BREAKING NEWS: Course Report (bootcamp review website) acquired by Career.io - a job hunting platform and placement service.

NEWS: Rithm School is shutting down - the doom and gloom is real - and it pains me to say so 😢. An update on bootcamp closures as of July 2024.

New App Academy Layoffs?

Any success stories of H1 2024 grads?

Are bootcamps still a thing in 2024?

Stuck between Rithm School or Codesmith

Starting Coding Career

Don The Developer: "Coding Bootcamps ARE Still Viable in 2024".... with caveats 😉

Hey Codesmith, what happened to Parallel?

Codesmith's newly posted AUDITED version of their CIRR H1 2022 show discrepancies from their initial report published a month or two ago (... and a reminder about blindly trusting CIRR)

A lot of bootcampers and bootcamps in 2020-2023 era tout a narrative that their graduates have imposter syndrome, but... do you maybe... think they are just actually imposters? Compared to cs grads

🏛️ Get to know a moderator: Michael Novati

⚠️ WARNING: Codesmith subreddit is mostly propaganda (resharing Codesmith content without full context and boosting with positive comments from accounts that mostly post about Codesmith only). Challenges and negative comments are called "lies" and you get banned. BE SMART AND THINK CRITICALLY.

Regarding the viability of bootcamps

JPMorgan Chase Emerging Talent Software Engineers October 2024

Don't go to Codesmith from a Codesmith alumni

Line by Line Rebuttal to Codesmith CEO dodging question about placement rates in a challenging market

Futurecode NYC x Codesmith program

Boot campers from 2020-2023, how are work options for you now?

Bootcamps

Can someone explain to me how the job market is different now compared to 2020 for bootcamp graduates?

2024 Bootcamp Predictions [MIDYEAR CHECKIN AND UPDATES!]

Thoughts?

The "Modern Software Engineer": Refuting the "lawyer engineer" and instead an argument for Specialization + Collaboration

Sick of influencers still pushing bootcamps!?!

Unofficial Analysis: a top bootcamp's 2023 grad placement rates APPEAR TO DROP ALMOST HALF from 2022 grad placement rates (from about 80% to 45%). Even the best can't beat the market right now. [Illustrative only, may contain errors]

Another CIRR school pauses enrollment due to the market. Bootcamps have to face reality or they will not survive 2024. If you are looking at bootcamp that doesn't warn you about the market for bootcamp grads, run for the hills!

I was an instructor at coding dojo for 4 years and got laid off in January.

Launch School has capstone students pass off their capstone project as employed work experience?

I was laid off and they’re replacing me with a degree holder

Kim Spicer: Software Engineer, JavaScript Teacher & Codesmith Alum: People becoming SWEs today are aware of tough market, but persevere because they're truly passionate about coding

Jenna Davis: Senior Software Engineer at Apple and Codesmith Alum On Tech Hiring Trends and Her Route Into Coding

AMA: Curriculum + Pedagogy

Bootcamp Students Act Weird

Is it possible to switch careers from accountant to software engineer/developer

Formation Conflict of Interest

Am i in trouble for faking number of years on my resume

Which bootcamp would you recommend and why?

Best Part Time Program?

Should I join CodeSmith?

New No-Cost Program: Future Code NYC x Codesmith

Interesting to see this summary - it's fascinating as it seems a lot of the lay offs haven't been SEs... is anyone else picking that up? SEs seem to continue to be core to business, solving problems etc.

I already have a job, but want to get better at programming - are boot camps still worth it? (NYC)

Rithm School's CEO joined Don the Developer's podcast to discuss the job market, failing bootcamps, and how Rithm is adapting

I’m Annie, Codesmith’s Director of Outcomes. AMA!

Got interview coming up at some great companies(Airbnb, OpenAi, Databricks, Chime) but too scared to interview

BloomTech CEO fined $100,000 for "Deceiving Students", must stop collecting payments

Meta OA handed me an L today

Do you put your bootcamp in your 'experience' for CVs?

Which Bootcamp offers high success and employment rate?

What is the minimum benchmark to get into Formation?

Best coding bootcamp for someone with a math degree?

Codesmith's new Future Code Program is coming together, (free program for NY residents with no programming experience, aiming for a $65K+ first computer job), applications in May, starts July 29th

Stay away from any bootcamp!!!!

I literally never see ads for coding bootcamps on Youtube anymore

Switched Careers from Healthcare to Tech in under a year. AMA!

Line-by-Line Critique of CIRR Standard Document. Opinion: good intentioned organization but spec is not rigorous and robust and I point out all of the problems that make it one of the weaker specifications I've read in my opinion.

So what about STEM majors doing bootcamps?

I’m Annie, Codesmith’s Director of Outcomes. AMA! on r/codesmith

Codesmith's Unofficial/Reverse Engineered H2 2022 CIRR Report - NOTABLE OPINIONS: concerning increase in number of ghosters on salaries (that still counted as job obtainers !!), 180 day placement rate of 63% (a little higher than expected)

Podcast idea: Bootcamp success stories

Council on Integrity in Results Reporting (CIRR) 2022-2023 outcomes reports & Board AMA

Michael Novati's Summarized Guide to the Meta Interview Process

Codesmith: "Predictive Analytics & Generative AI" w/ CEO Will Sentance, March 27th

CIRR Board AMA

I am a bootcamp grad who works at a HFT, AMA

Charting My Tech Career 3 Years Post-Codesmith

I am an OG bootcamp grad (2013) currently about to be a Director of Engineering. AMA.

Had a mock interview with Meta today

My experience with App Academy circa 2016 and why bootcampers have a unique value proposition and aren’t doomed

CIRR appears to be done and irrelevant now - Codesmith needs to get off the Titanic before it sinks (Personal Opinion)

Codesmith: My experience

Learning resources alongside Codesmith CSX?

What Happened To Codesmith?

On Codesmith going fully remote - will they be retaining the full suite of alum opportunities?

Coding Bootcamps that hire professional software engineers as Instructors?

Meta Final Round, Anyone have advice on Product Architecture Design interview?

The generations of bootcamp graduates

Senior Codesmith staff member addresses "the odd negativity on reddit" [leaked]

Senior Codesmith staff member: "Grads should have the right to post positive comments without having them selectively deleted, don't ya think?" [leaked, part 2 & 3]

Are coding bootcamps still relevant or should I just opt to work for free for experience?

Senior Codesmith staff member DMs [leaked, part 2]

CodeSmith is a Sinking Ship - Get a refund

What was the staff setup (org structure) at your bootcamp?

Codesmith (due to declining enrollment) shutting down NYC in-person, merging remaining full time remote cohorts into one. But also alludes to new Future Code program, co-working spaces and announces new changes! See my line by line commentary and personal opinions.

Codesmith is Transitioning to Fully Remote

Codesmith posted an "Early Look" into 2023 outcomes w/ 2022 comparisons. My personal opinions and anlysis. Notable to me is both that median salary was $130K in 2022 and that it was $115K in 2023. Placement rates are missing, but I would guess much lower, for a double whammy 🥺

Looking to change careers into something coding related

On My Experience at Codesmith

Any recent Codesmith graduates?

Do Not Go To Codesmith

I wish I never went to a coding bootcamp

CS theories

Anyone have any updates from CIRR and their new standards for 2022 full year outcomes? All the "official standards documents" on their website are "owned" by Codesmith's former product manager (!?!), not someone at CIRR, and haven't been updated in a long time.

Interview SDE2 virtual onsite AWS

83% of job offers from Codesmith in 2023 were Codesmith style vs. Quick apply

Anyone did a bootcamp during summer while completing their Cs bachelor’s degree?

Best Coding Bootcamp 2024

Has anyone done formation and is it worth it?

How do I find graduates from a bootcamp to ask questions?

Where to find CIRR Data

What happens if you can't find a job more than a year after finishing a bootcamp or career accelerator?

Best legit coding bootcamp

Codesmith 2023 Year In Review Blog Post Released

It looks like the cofounders of Outco, an interview prep bootcamp, have cofounded Apply Pass. They have also recruited some Outco employees to work at Apply Pass. Apply Pass is some kind of platform that automates the job application process for software engineer jobs.

interview prep boot camps?

Former software dev with a cs degree

Formations Review

👋 Hi friends (specifically bootcamp grads), we just launched TIRA by Formation on Product Hunt and I wanted to share it here as a useful free tool and also to get your feedback. It's a dynamic 45 min benchmark to see how interview ready your DS&A skills that you hopefully find useful!

Flatiron School ?

< 20% of my Codesmith cohort is employed after 6 months.

Are there any reputable part-time bootcamps?

Former Lead Bootcamp Instructor at 3 Different Schools AMA

Best (& fastest) way for nontech startup founder to learn coding?

What bootcamps WON’T be shutting down soon?

Analysis of 52 most recent Codesmith offers LinkedIns and trends on who is getting a job right now and why. Summary: an average of 11.7 months of experience claimed for 3 week long projects (lacking evidence of additional time spent). Majority claimed to have prior SWE-adjacent experience.

2024 Bootcamp Predictions Mega Post. Revisiting my 2023 prediction post and exploring what I see ahead for 2024. 2023 was a rough year for bootcamps and the future doesn't look great for traditional programs - 2024 will be a year of caution, but I'm optimistically excited to see what happens!

The changing narrative around becoming an engineer in 2024, an argument for taking a longer and slower journey to becoming a SWE instead of a 12-16 week bootcamp.

The State of Bootcamps from a Former Employee

Who in the sweet fuck has gotten a job from a coding bootcamp?

Bootcamp shaming

can we call boot camps predatory?

Phone screen with Meta coming up

What is the job searching portion of Codesmith like?

Thinking of quitting my job as a SWE after completing a bootcamp to upskill.

Do you actually learn to code in bootcamps, or are they more for adding 10% to your pre-existing skills to get you to an employable standard?

Thinkful Bootcamp?

What do bootcamp grads that work at the bootcamp after their program do?

Survivor Bias

I need a reference from 100 devs

Yep, Course Report favours + reviews and filters - reviews

Niceee

From Codesmith to FAANG

We tested Le Wagon's job placement data (using graduate profiles on LinkedIn)

Has anyone had a good experience at a bootcamp this year?

Have you had a bad experience at a bootcamp in 2023?

2023 for a Jr-Md level dev looking to advance career: Bootcamp? Masters? Advice

If you just HAD to choose a coding bootcamp now which one would you choose?

Is it worth going to Codesmith?

Is a bootcamp right for me if I’m already pretty good at programming but have no actual experience?

Please do not join any coding bootcamp

Does codesmith seriously get people "senior" level SWE roles with no prior experience?

CIRR Website Interruption

Some thoughts as a former bootcamp graduate ( 2015 ) and current hiring manager.

Codesmith 3rd Technical Interview

Springboard vs Flatiron

Do Not Waste Money on a Bootcamp. Get a degree.

Bootcamps or certs?

Only 2/21 of my cohort have found employment 8 months later

Picking a bootcamp with a CS background

Codesmith Graduate 2023 experiences (Job offer after 2 weeks)

"accelerated" MS in CS? Bootcamp? Feeling a little discouraged, need advice please

Frustrated by not getting into Google (again)

Codesmith Technical Interview

A reflection of Codesmith and bootcamps in general

Bootcamp vs Computer Science Degree?

Need advice for onsite interview at Meta

Council on Integrity in Results Reporting (CIRR)

As an instructor for Tech Elevator...

Are the Codesmith Numbers Manipulated?

Why is Code Smith, Rithm, Hack Reactor, and Turing the only bootcamp ever mentioned on here? I have worked with student from multiple bootcamps but reddit seems biased on these particular bootcamps.

Persistence is key

400 applications later... 0 interviews... 1 coding challenge. If you think you're a failure, just read this post.

An ~18 month journey to SUCCESS!!

Coding Bootcamps Still Worth It?

✨ For the Leetcoders out there I have a mega-event to share.... the founders of Neetcode, Blind75, and Formation are hosting a panel discussion talking about DS&A and also a chance to get to know the people behind these things. It's on Thursday next week!

✨ For the Leetcoders out there I have a mega-event to share.... the founders of Neetcode, Blind75, and Formation are hosting a panel discussion talking about DS&A and also a chance to get to know the people behind these things. It's on Wednesday next week!

Job Market

My 2-day experience at Flatiron School that cost me $1,290. Bait and Switch.

Just read this in the contract... What do you guys think?

Has anyone faked 1 or 2 years of corporate experience on resume after graduating from the bootcamp and got job?

Recently departed bootcamp exec, my thoughts on the industry

I'm doing a live video AMA next week and would like you to come! I don't talk on camera often and I'm nervous, but I want to try to dedicate some time to answering the most questions possible, candidly and authentically and I'm going to try to do it live without preparation.

Codesmith OSP code review: numerous "unbreak now" security vulnerabilities discovered after spending 5 minutes reviewing an "advanced security tool". Not the mid-level or senior engineering work it is claimed to be.

Codesmith censorship? Moderator deletes 100 comment thread??

From healthcare (nursing) to tech within a year. AMA.

Is a bootcamp still the best choice for me?

Whats happening in the Tech Industry and Salary trends, by codesmith

Bloomtech in 2023 ?

My Experience With Bootcamps

Current Climate

I’m just being real

1 year as a SWE

Coding bootcamp advice for an soon to be ex-physics PhD student

Looking at Bootcamps but Already have a degree

When do the July-Decemember 2022 CIRR Results Come Out?

Switched Careers from Healthcare to Tech in under a year. AMA!

Yet another review of Formation.dev (After 2 weeks)

Let's be real about Codesmith for a minute.....

Best platform for mock interviews?

Codesmith vs Rithm

Ada Developers Academy 'significantly' reduces headcount, pauses admissions, names interim CEO – GeekWire

I'm Getting Interviews, I'm Just Not Passing DSA Questions

Codesmith Latest Job Placements -- Internal Spreadsheet w/ 70+ Salary Outcomes (before & after income and Total Comp)

A warning about Nucamp

An Honest Review of Codesmith

Best Coding Interview Bootcamp for MAANG

I’ve run bootcamps for 12 years, AMA

Hack Reactor is merging with Tech Elevator

I actually don't recommend any bootcamp for 2023 - A review of bootcamps

Experienced professional, should I do a boot camp?

Intermediate/Advanced Bootcamps?

Is Bootcamp dropout rate really that high?

Just spoke with recruiters from four different major companies. They are filtering out bootcampers.

What are the companies name that have hired bootcamp graduates?

Question for Codesmith students and Alumni: What percentage of your cohort already had professional experience?

Need advice

Is the incredibly high tuition for the 'best' coding bootcamps commensurate with their quality + job prospects?

PSA: Waymo + Formation Program applications opened today - targeting 2024 summer internships (for 2025 grads only)

Reputable bootcamps near LA?

Advice needed for college grad

Need help

Is any bootcamp releasing H2 2022 data yet? Anyone want to scrape/parse LinkedIn for placement data?

Anyone landed a job after completing a code boot camp recently?

Getting rejected by CodeSmith, Next steps?

Hack Reactor's H1 2022 outcomes report is out.

I dropped out of Formation.dev after 6 weeks and this is why

Graduated with MIS degree, looking into Bootcamps

Tech I.S IS A SCAM DO NOT GO TO THIS BOOTCAMP

How to break out of $62k dead end web dev?

Should list your bootcamp under education in a resume?

Currently have a SWE internship & a very strong lead for a full time position with that company. If you were in my position, would you still go to a bootcamp?

Is there even a good option anymore??

Recent Success Storied

Recent grad not related to cs. 2nd degree in cs or a coding bootcamp?

For Those Graduated CodeSmith or Currently in CodeSmith. Regarding Open source

Software engineering bootcamp for advanced coder

Starting Hack Reactor's 12-week intermediate bootcamp in 2 days

Codesmith.io: Like the best of alcoholic family dysfunction, online for your entertainment pleasure.

Any Codesmith 2023 grads willing to have a virtual coffee chat?

Honesty about CodeSmith / AMA

Quality of Codesmith/ in general bootcamp job help?

SHARING A POST FROM CSCAREERQUESTIONS: What happened to the bootcamps?

What happened to the bootcamps?

Please help, will pay for legitimate advice on a call?

Hello, Reddit, Excited to Introduce KlusterView

Where to go from here ? Coursera? Bootcamp ?

UPDATE: 2023 Predictions check-in and updates!

Bootcamp graduates, what companies are you working for and what is the salary range?

Which has better ROI...codesmith or 2 year college diploma?

Do top bootcamps teach DSA?

Creating a Startup Coding Bootcamp

Which bootcamp is paying the most for ads? (youtube, instagram, reddit)

Leetcode, take home, or else?

SF Bay Area Bootcamps

Which single most important factor helped you decide on the bootcamp to attend?

What was your first salary after boot camp?

Bootcamp as a CS grad

Codesmith slowly and quietly shut down the data and machine learning intensive? Anyone know why?

Non-Doomsday Codesmith Take

I'm trying to get a sense of what most bootcamps lack, curriculum-wise

It feels like it's really hard to find a non-emotionally charged conversation about Codesmith (particularly from detractors)

Is the market sparse right now or are people making 137k on average out of a bootcamp? They seem to both be concurrently true

[Bay Area] Salary expectation for first job after 3 month Codesmith program? Background: undergrad economics degree and 3 years sales management and operations

Outco

Codesmith is …. Not It. Go elsewhere. AMA

Hack Reactor 19-week RANT

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Help with Succeeding in CodeSmith

Any in person coding bootcamps out there?

AMA: Graduated Codesmith (parttime) last month

Why can't I find an actual positive take on a boot camp?

As a former Codesmith employee, Codesmith is an absolute shit show

Mentorships/Programs similar to Formation.dev

Why is the Codesmith criticism pinned?

A hot take on Codesmith...

How would you rate Codesmith in terms of career outcomes?

What is hardest bootcamp to get accepted into? That’s what I’m looking for but don’t know how to wade through all of them.

I have a strange feeling about Codesmith

How do I get a better job?

Codesmith Full-Time Remote H1 2022 CIRR report is out

Nucamp?

Interested in joining Formation.dev? Here's why you shouldn't.

Going back to bootcamp for a second time

Bootcamp Predictions for the rest of 2023 (Personal opinions based on public information and my understanding of the industry, disclosure: no material inside information, not stock trading advice)

Hack Reactor 19 week program sucks - definitely not worth your time and money

Bootcampers that graduated without SWE-related work experience

Boot camp?

Can Anyone Confirm If Amazon Warehouse Workers Can Get Promoted To IT Positions?

Is Formation.dev bootcamp giving referrals or interviews right now?

Has anyone found a successful "training program" for interviewing?

Why doesn’t codesmith show up as a top bootcamp?

Taking a low job offer to escape ISA?

Background Check Question

4 years post codesmith update - how it’s going now vs. then

Everyone's Favorite time of the half-year! H1 2022 CIRR Reports are starting to roll out! TechElevator, CodeUp and LaunchAcademy are live, Codesmith not live yet. First look at 2021 vs 2022 hiring climate stats and things don't look good :S

1:1 Mentor options

Help Wanted: How To Identify which Bootcamps are a scam and which ones are not

Unemployed graduates (2022 - 2023)

Codesmith or AppAcademy?

Scaler Academy Review

PSA: Netflix Formation Program applications opened today! (2024 CS grads in the USA)

Are boot camps the real deal?

PSA: Netflix Formation Program applications opened today! (2024 CS grads in the USA). Sadly, this is not open to bootcamp grads this time around, but any CS students who are considering a bootcamp before graduation might benefit from this program)

Is Coachable legit? Apparently, they help you find a job and then you pay 15% of your first year's salary

The creator of Codesmith is a former graduate of Hack Reactor.

Hack Reactor vs Codesmith vs Rithm

Warning about codesmith

Any job results from cohorts that graduated November/December 2022 to the present (2023)?

CS degree and bootcamp?

Why is codesmith starting salary so high and how long to prepare?

Any bootcamps which focus on DSA?

Any in person boot camps in SF?

Is Tech getting more elitist ?

Should I do coding bootcamp?

Codesmith?

don't go to Hack Reactor/ Galvanize - choose another BootCamp like codesmith or app academy - they're probably better

Why does everyone hate their job.... I love my job! Does anyone else love their job?

What true Open Source Software means from my perspective in the industry and how I recommend contributing to it to get your foot in the door (spoiler: it's not what most bootcamps do)

This just in: There are no dev jobs left

CIRR's domain expired 2 days ago, no one renewed it, and the website is now offline

IT at Large Tech Company Bootcamp Options

Feels about right

Currently in Codesmith, question for former students?

How long does codesmith work with you until you get a job?

Coding bootcamp with prior experience???

Anyone attend Codesmith to move into SWE when current job has a high salary?

Reddit best boot camps vs internet

Hack Reactor ~7.5 Months Results

Rithm School? Codesmith? Grads help me please, I'm tearing my hair out.

Any other applicants to the Codesmith Data Science and Machine Learning Immersive beta cohort?

What has the job hunt been like since this past summer for bootcamp grads?

Codesmith or Launch School?

Expected job growth

Is doing a boot camp as someone with no degree a fool’s errand?

Is 500 LC questions good enough to pass a NG faang-level interview?

Junior Dev Twitter/LinkedIn is purgatory and lessons to take into 2023

CS Grads who Also Did Bootcamps? Was it Worth It?

Choosing Hack Reactor Codemsith

Sharing a post from CSCareerQuestions that shows why your first job matters!

Here to give back, I broke into tech without a tech degree and I would love to answer any doubts you have and shed light on fake stuff I’ve noticed that are promoted to people trying to break into tech.

Data structures and algos question

What software engineers do? is this a better designation than a Web or App developer? What are the languages and tools one should learn to be a software engineer?

When should you not attempt Hack Reactor(Galvanize)?

Which camp are you enrolled in?

Deciding between hack reactor or another TAA w/ codesmith

Codesmith or Hack Reactor? (summary of 2018-2022 threads)

REPLY TO MR.NOVATI , co-founder of formation.dev and ex FAANG ENGINEER

Life after bootcamp.

Hating on bootcamps

COURSE REPORT?

What are you currently working on? What's the most interesting part?

What’s more challenging? Coding bootcamp or a software engineer job

How true is this? Is this the worst possible time to be a bootcamp grad? I’m stressed out about this Tech winter.

I said "I have enough of this" and started to create my own bootcamp AMA

Bloom Institute of Technology just laid off 50% of the company this morning with no warning. Anyone here impacted?

Resources to bolster DS&A knowledge

Why do so many bootcamp graduates end up working for their bootcamp as instructors?

Bootcamps for engineers with 2+ years of experience?

Bootcamps for those with CS degrees?

Who here has graduated a coding bootcamp with actual no coding experience and no college degree?

Codesmith School Performance Fact Sheet Substantially Different from CIRR Outcomes?

Programming Bootcamp hasn't felt worth it, can I get away with not paying?

Recent Hack Reactor Grads

Is it going to look bad if I go to a bootcamp with a computer science degree?

Do you put boot camps on your resume or linkedin profiles?

What’s the difference between the senior and mid level SWE interviews at Capital One?

Codesmith tech interview prep

Do coding bootcamps go over theory?

What happened to 42 Silicon Valley School?

Joined a boot camp, and after one week I don't think I learn at this pace

How similar is CSX to the actual Codesmith bootcamp experience?

More CIRR H2 2021 results out! Codesmith included - with a lot to unpack! Overall lower placement rates and much higher salaries of those placed, and a few more fun things!

The Pedagogy of Codesmith CSX

Is Codesmith useful for someone with no college degree?

Anyone familiar with bloom institute of technology?

How big is the gulf between Hack Reactor vs. Codesmith?

Stuck working on ideas for my final project

Codesmith Bootcamp Curriculum/Pace

Is it difficult to get a SWE position remotely after graduating from a boot camp?

I’m Michael. I was a principal engineer at Facebook from 2009 to 2017, where I was the top code contributor of all time and also conducted hundreds of interviews. I recently co-founded Formation.dev, an engineering fellowship that trains and refers engineers directly into big tech. Ask me Anything!

“Experience”

Big thread in CSC sub with range of opinions on framing your bootcamp as "experience" on resumes. CSC is a lot angrier than this sub in tone, but I think it's good to read all sides of this. (Link in body)

Is it worth doing a coding bootcamp if I have a CS degree? If so, which one?

Outcomes after completing Codesmith

Bootcamp for CS not Web Dev.

Codesmith fellowship experiences?

Recent App Academy Grad, Here’s What I Wish I Knew Before Choosing a Bootcamp

Looking for feedback on Codesmith NYC onsite....the hours seem insane

Why is LeWagon so cultish? Unlike any bootcamp, I only see praise for the bootcamp and it seems really suspicious…

Has anyone here done the full #100devs program and then arrived in a full-time programming career?

Codesmith vs 100devs - how to decide?

Codesmith: How long to Prep? Debating giving up on upcoming cohort.

With so many beginners here (myself included), can someone with experience explain the state of the job market?

Codesmith Pre-Course Prep... Starting from 0? And Codesmith prestige?

Any tips for succeeding and learning from my upcoming bootcamp?

Feeling Concerned..

Is it an issue that Codesmith only teaches Javascript?

Starting salaries and offers

Hack Reactor in October or wait for CodeSmith in March

Bootcamp Alumni: we are doing the first ever free 🎉 Formation Day open house on October 1st and I wanted to invite you all to join!

Codesmith OSP! Introducing Apollo's Library, a graphQL package!

One of the “projects” of my bootcamp is to post positive reviews for them online?

I've been shopping around for a coding boot camp and Codesmith seems to stand out above the rest. Does anyone have much experience with the program or know much about it? Thanks!

I graduated CodeSmith in July and just signed my first offer w/out a college degree - AMA

26y.o from NYC, trying to figure out the best option

Update on me waiting for a call from the codesmith folks: They asked me to schedule a second interview

Preparing for a boot camp (HR)

CodeSmith Grads-How to get best job offers

Let’s Hear it from CodeSmith students/Graduates

For Codesmith Grads: If you could do it all over again, How would you prepare before attending Codesmith?

Codesmith or DevMountain?

Last call for Perpetual Education's September 12th start date

Feel way behind and lost in Codesmith prep courses

CIRR board member shakeup, four people out, Codesmith in, anyone know anything?

How legit are Codesmith's stat

CIRR H2 2021 is out! [Discussion Thread] Same schools as H1

What bootcamp should I go to?

Is codesmith actually that selective?

Hi everyone. I was wondering if anyone joined Interview Kickstart technical interview prep bootcamp? How was your experience? was it worth it for learning DSA?Got offer in FAANG? please share your experiences below. I am thinking to join soon. I just want to get people's opinions about that school.

is codesmith and other top bootcamps worth it if u have a CS degree?

Should I join a bootcamp with an electrical engineering degree and 8 years XP (unrelated to SW)?

Codesmith graduates without degrees

Is the data provided by CIRR legit?

Can I be hired at a good company by just grinding DSA?

Do ISA agreements only apply to a job in tech?

Going through recommendations for bootcamps for entry-level positions (e.g. NuCamp, etc) and would love to hear your thoughts on my situation!

An actual Bootcamp that has led to a Job

Springboard vs Launch School

Debating Kenzie Academy

t3_wasj3r

I'm 40 years old, no coding experience, no degree and quiting my miserable job at retail to go to boot camp. Need advice

What are your thoughts on Springboard??

Really thinking about a career change, is a coding bootcamp worth it ?

Is it normal to feel this way? 3-4 weeks into bootcamp and I still feel lost!

Highly recommended advice for bootcamps grads and the job market from Gergely (The Pragmatic Engineer)

Out of curiosity I’ve been LinkedIn stalking an entire codesmith cohort on LinkedIn for the last month. Stats

Former Bootcampers, Share Your Job Hunt Success Story!

How feasible is it to get a job after boot camp?

In-Person Bootcamp recommendations?

I’m 22 years old attending codeSmith and no degree. How hard do you think finding a job would be ?

Looking for a bootcamp that's somewhere between Codesmith full time and part time?

Second best bootcamp?

Best part-time coding bootcamp

How many bootcamp grads in Canada get jobs in the US

For those interested, Formation is hosting a panel on FAANG engineer levels (junior/mid/senior/etc...) tomorrow

Advanced Bootcamp

Hack Reactor General Questions

Best boot camp.

Boot camps that optimize career opportunities?

Any bootcamp success stories?

Stories about taking time off/quitting to practice for interviews?

Does anyone know what Codesmith fellows get paid?

Job Market and bootcamp

Front-end bootcamp for non-beginner

Had anyone here done formation.dev? What are your impressions and takeaways?

About CodeSmith

Saw that Codesmith’s NYC cohort is going back to in-person classes starting in the fall. I wonder if other bootcamps will start doing the same. Do you guys prefer remote or in-person?

Questions about NUCAMP

For people who did the Codesmith technical interview: how long did it take to find out you passed or failed?

Open Source Projects vs. Short-term Internship

Looking for a coding course with good mentor/TA support

Bootcamp or masters

Coding Dojo Secures $10 Million in New Funding

Current App Academy students see below

CodeSmith Grads/Applicants: Did you do CS prep and if so was it worth it?

Need help choosing boot camp

Bootcamp or Personal Tutor?

Google Hiring Coding Bootcamp Graduates

Getting back into coding 3 years after graduating bootcamp

Could I get a decent job with just coding bootcamp and no college degree?

Coding Dojo Part Time Flex (python)….

Does anyone know if it's possible to find video lectures from previous Codesmith CS prep lectures online?

CIRR results for 2021 up!

Switching from civil engineering to swe

Weird experience with Google Hiring Manager interviews

Graduated with a CS degree 5 years ago, now looking for a SDE/SWE job

Does an income share agreement with a bootcamp stall you from getting hired?

System Design round next week. Tips?

Any data on the salaries or placement rates of different bootcamps?

If i completely self learn web development and then go to a bootcamp would it be easier to get a job

CodeSmith graduates, how long did it take you to find a job after graduating?

Is there any prep work i should do before signing up for hacker rank?

Applied for ISA, got denied..

Harvards introduction to CS?

Hackreactor vs Codesmith

Any wisdom and tips for AWS exam assessments.

which bootcamps are best?

Bootcamp advice

Self taught devs - how long did it take you to make it to big tech?

I am thinking about Nucamp

Should I even bother doing the coding assessment for SDE2 position at Amazon?

Has this ever happened to anyone?

Are Career Accelerators the new rush vs Bootcamps? Met 2 guys that landed jobs through it

Expanding access: Formation's coding benchmarking assessment to see if you are ready for FAANG DS&A interviews (free 45 min CodeSignal test)

Formation FAANG-level DS&A assessment preview/sneak peak for this subreddit

Codesmith Full Time Immersive

Ex-FAANGs, what are you doing now?

New Grad no job… Is Bootcamp a good Option?

Worrying about the placement after the course completion? Join Code Camp and forget about the placement issues.

Help! I don’t want to be job ready in 3 months or make 6 figures.

Anyone reconsidering a bootcamp now that the tech bubble is bursting ?

Career outcomes from coding boot camps

Anyone from Toronto who has gone through an SF-based bootcamp (rithm/codesmith)?

Free coding resources vs. Bootcamp

Which coding bootcamp in 2022?

Bootcamp for someone with programming experience in other fields

Anyone recommend a bootcamp where I can choose the days I can attend ?

Is there a good bootcamp besides CodeSmith?

ISA’s and a lot of bootcamps are usually a scam.

How can I create this effect?

Web dev and DSA

[crosspost] I’m Michael. I was a principal engineer at Facebook from 2009 to 2017, where I was the top code contributor of all time and also conducted hundreds of interviews. I recently co-founded Formation.dev, an engineering fellowship that trains and refers engineers directly into big tech. AMA!

Some thoughts on how to select the right coding school

Flatiron or Codesmith Nyc?

Why I signed up for Codesmith… quality open source project experience! Spearmint.js

Completed a bootcamp after being unable to complete CS degree. Feeling lost.

Codesmith NYC median salary $120,000? To CS grads, is it true?

I’m a bootcamp grad and I’m ready to give up on the job search… Any advice?

Should I attend a bootcamp

Best Coding Bootcamp (Online) - Fullstack, deep dive

live, instructor-led LC-type question bootcamp?

How do I learn to understand DS&A?

Question about which direction I should take - bootcamp or furthering education?

Bootcamps/courses for experienced developers?

2nd bootcamp?

Let's Talk About it: Formation.Dev