There’s a lot of doom and gloom in this subreddit about how no one’s hiring bootcamp grads any more and how bootcamps are worthless.
I don’t disagree with the general sentiment that right now that it’s difficult across the board to get hired as a SWE - regardless if you have a
u/michaelnovatireplied·★ FEATURED
Are the Codesmith announcements:
1. people's promotions and 2nd or 3rd jobs
2. people reporting jobs several months after they placed
3. people job hunting for around a year or more
The reason I ask is that people have pointed out that Codesmith recently started adding alumnis new jobs to those announcements and intermixing them with new placements.
I do agree with the "Codesmith Method" of applying for jobs though. I also talked to a number of grads about it. Based on their sentiment I think there is a reason people have removed themselves from the Alumni List because they were being inundated with Codesmith grads who have zero experience. One person told me they removed themselves because they felt so awkward, like people attending timeshare meetings and feeling they have to listen to this embellished pitch and just want to get the heck out.
u/jcl274 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Good question and honestly I have no idea. You can make an educated guess cause they do include the person’s cohort in shoutout but like I said it’s an educated guess as to if it’s their first job or not. Most of the cohort numbers I’m seeing are very high numbers so they seem to
u/michaelnovatireplied·★ FEATURED
People have sent me LinkedIns (e.g. "Codesmith just said my friend got a job and they were placed 7 months ago, see : <linkedin>") so I'm assuming you would be able to look up people on LinkedIn and see.
I haven't done it for a long time but I used to look through the LinkedIns, and analyze just the work history. If you haven't done that it opens your eyes to how some people are getting jobs. A number of them have YEARS of experience listed.
I can't comprehend how it got normalized behavior for like someone to on slack and tell their cohort like 'hi everyone I got my first job, I'm so nervous and excited but want to thank all my cohort makes, I couldn't have done it without you!' and then silently their LinkedIn says they had 3 years of SWE experience that was really them having a Euphoria fan site on Squarespace with zero code and that clearly was how their resume got through.... (this is a illustrative example combining different anecdotes but changing for identity)
Can't wait for the Codesmith documentary series to come out on HBO some day so we hear these people explain that out loud and how absolutely absurd it is.