u/EatuhFetus4Gzus wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Seeing a lot of mixed reviews, but their curriculum seems pretty solid for current tech.. does anyone have any advice? Im supposed to start in like a week, i have zero coding background i come from blue collar, just hoping im at least sort of making a good choice here... a few of
u/michaelnovatireplied·
Coding Temple has been under the radar in this sub.
Some things to note:
- It's much cheaper than the $20K price tag on the "top price tier" programs
- They acquired App Academy's brand last year
- They are Chicago based and not focused on tech cities as much as the more expensive programs.
- Self paced.
Flags to look into or ask about:
- They are discounting the program 65% to $3,500. This could be a sign of struggling enrollment and deep discounts to help boost revenue. Ask them if they can provide enrollment trends or why they are discounting so much.
- Ask how many people start actually finish. With self paced programs that's the missing piece because a lot of people are current and don't finish and also don't withdraw. The on time completion rate for one self paced program in California is a single digit percentage of people. 10% completion rate and 90% of them getting placed might be factually correct but important to know. I didn't see this number on their website directly in my quick look, so I would research or ask.
u/EmeraldxWeapon wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
In 2022 I did the self paced program for 6,000 (I think) so 3500 is a good discount. Self paced though so not that different from just following any of the popular free courses and saving yourself the money. Their content is nothing special. Often I would read their material, the
u/michaelnovatireplied·
What do you think of the 90% placement rate on their website? And the completion rate from people you worked with?
u/EatuhFetus4Gzus wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Just curious; why would they be under the radar? I also am unsure why them being chicago based would affect a curriculum, call it my own ignorance..
Enrollment #'s honestly hadn't crossed my mind, I asked a lot of questions but that one seemed to escape me, I like the way you th
u/michaelnovatireplied·★ FEATURED
I have a THEORY, but this is just my person opinion/thoughts and not a fact.
This sub tends to talk about the most expensive bootcamps (including former ones now closed), Launch School, Codesmith, Hack Reactor, App Academy, Lambda School, because these programs are so expensive that it's a huge commitment. When you spend $20K on a bootcamp you are also more included to self-justify that investment. You are also not paying for nothing, and those bootcamps could have more robust communities, more staff, more marketing dollars to pay for "reddit support", etc...
The audience for these programs are people who are seriously committed, put in a lot of effort to choose a bootcamp, and want to make sure they are confident in the decision.
The programs like Triple Ten, NuCamp, Springboard, Coding Temple are: 1) much cheaper, 2) focus on advertising to a large audience, a lot of them have 'X% off discounts' perpetually on the website if you join in some time window. The cost isn't nothing, but it's a much lower barrier so someone might try it out and see if programming is for them by enrolling rather than spending a lot of time thinking about the decision. They also might be using company-supported education credits to pay for them because the cost is lower and could be covered.
So people in that second bucket are less likely to put in time and peruse Reddit and ones that randomly show up and post without reading or engaging tend to get shutdown quickly by the community and encouraged to 'search and read' first.
u/EmeraldxWeapon wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
I didn't see that on their website (but I didn't look very long). I thought they had pivoted away from that kind of marketing because high % numbers sound absolutely ridiculous to anybody who has been in the space for some time.
CT used to have zoom meetings and bring on recen
u/EmeraldxWeapon wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
I didn't see that on their website (but I didn't look very long). I thought they had pivoted away from that kind of marketing because high % numbers sound absolutely ridiculous to anybody who has been in the space for some time.
CT used to have zoom meetings and bring on recen
u/michaelnovatireplied·★ FEATURED
Do they have open source projects? I know for places like Codesmith and Launch School you can just go through the open source projects that every student does and figure out placement rates. Anyone can do this and see raw information - with the caveat that LinkedIns could be out of date. However CIRR and Codesmith's auditor considers LinkedIn "LinkedIn is almost as gospel as anything else" (quote) so if you go off of LinkedIn you can figure out the placement rates.
I can't comment on that right now but encourage people to spend like an hour digging into it themselves and correlating it with public messaging if they are curious about this, and if they don't care then don't! haha.
u/EmeraldxWeapon wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Completely outrageous. I would love to know how they arrive at this number.
u/michaelnovatireplied·
Here is the outcomes report: [https://codingtemple.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/codingtemple-outcomes-report-2025.pdf](https://codingtemple.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/codingtemple-outcomes-report-2025.pdf)
Syas 92% placement rate within 180 days for 2023-2024.
Self paced completion rates are very low in the industry so I suspect this includes only 'graduates' and to be a graduate you have to be basically close to placeable, but I'm not sure.
The median salary is $75K which is quite low compared to other bootcamps, so it's possible these roles are more like internships/contracts/etc...
u/Humble_Warthog9711 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
What would the consequences be if they just made up the number completely? What's the worst a bootcamp has ever been hit with?
u/michaelnovatireplied·
I was starting to write this out but I have to be more careful about talking about these things but most bootcamps have contracts and fine print that protect them.