u/SadPhDStudent17 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
That profile doesn't load for me but I'll try project Odin backend courses
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Formation probably isn't good for you in this market,. I would recommend trying to get a math-y tech internship actually.
I would try to line one up in the fall during internship season (literally RIGHT NOW) - when you are technically still in your PhD program and eligible, maybe go on leave instead of dropping out. And then try to convert the internship into a full time role and "drop out" of the program then.
If you have no experience at all, internships are key right now.
Now if you don't agree and want to look at different supplemental options...
Consider a bootcamp like Codesmith if you are an ambitious hustler and want to produce a nice looking resume that is optimized to get through recruiter screens. You won't absorb that much actual skill but if you are the right personality it might be the most effective way to get a job for you.
Consider Formation if you want to fill in more of the DS&A, CS fundamental courses you might not have taken, and if you want to get to a FAANG-level interview bar there. We have a fabulous network of staff and mentors, but in this market that's less helpful for referrals and that's why I don't recommend it if you are showing up for referrals only - people who do are unsatisfied and miss the point of what we do. Unlike Codesmith, we are full of FAANG-senior industry experienced engineers and recruiters and people tend to freak out about the Codesmith approach of 'exaggerating your resume' as a means to an end and one mentor even left because a Fellow was defending their Codesmith-style resume that the mentor felt was lying and they were so offended about it - we had to talk to them to come back.... but the approach does work better than being honest.
But don't come to Formation to "buy your way to a job" and don't come to Formation to get practical hands-on project work for resume. You'll probably write mote code at Formation than at a bootcamp, but it's for the purpose of PRACTICE and not for RESUME building. Bootcamps are the exact opposite and you spend more time figuring out how to present your projects on your resume and practicing talking about them than you do on the project itself.
NOTE: this is all in Sept 2023, in the future, if we continue to do a good job overall, we'll probably have all kinds of other features.