Hack Reactor vs Codesmith vs Rithm

It depends a lot on you personally, how far along you are, and what kind of environment you want to learn in. As with almost any program, you have to do the work and get the job. No program will give you a $100K+ job... you get paid that kind of money because of the impact you have in generating more value than that for the company. Rithm: 9am to 6pm, direct instruction from senior engineers/instructors, capped at 18 people class sizes, mock internships. Focuses on actually learning. Codesmith: 9am to 8pm + Saturdays, Cohorts are 36 people and instruction is from former students (either new grads, or previous grads who were hired full time). More of a "firehose" style program where ambitious people who power through do well. Entry bar is designed to get people from free sessions -> prep -> immersive and selects and for people who are already strong from self teaching, and communicate well. Hack Reactor: 9am to 8pm + Saturdays, I've heard of larger cohort sizes but don't know the exact number. The entry bar is a little lower but the program is also a "firehose" style ideal for ambitious people so more people drop out who can't keep up as a result of the lower bar. Instructor is from full time instructors typically hired from the outside and also some recent grads as TAs. For people who have self studied successfully enough to get accepted into Codesmith, you probably will do well in any of the three.

Yeah oops, thanks! will edit, p.s. nice username :D

I've kept a close eye on them but don't know anyone in the USA who has done it yet. It is a well funded Indian company, InterviewBit that launched Scalar. The testimonials on their website all have LinkedIn's attached and every single one of the people are at great companies but located in India as well. The vast majority of people in the sub (I've been here over a year, every day) are looking for USA, Canada, or EU based bootcamps. It also looks a lot more like Interview Kickstart than a bootcamp. Can you give more info about your background and if Scalar is appropriate for people at the bootcamp level?

I lost track of the thread because you commented 4 times so I'll reply here. I totally understand all of this and this is competitive to what Formation offers (which is why I know so much about them), but I'm asking if they have branched out of India or not yet, as all of the people I could find who did it did it in India and got jobs in India. 1. Are there hiring partnerships outside of India? 2. How many of your peers that you interact with are located in India vs outside India? 3. What percentage of the mentors you worked with are location outside of India?

Formation.dev, Interview Kickstart, Outco,io, Coachable, these are all options that work on DSA to compare and consider!

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Thanks! Yeah very curious to see how it goes, keep in touch!

I disagree frequently that Codesmith's outcomes speak for themselves. They are unlike most programs in that there's a peek of people on the high end and a peek of people in the low end and they don't break out results by experience level. So people with more experience or a stronger background who end up making more money might not be realistic for someone who is maybe from a completely unrelated industry with no even vaguely related skills, like basic math, and I don't think that that's clear from the results. In addition, I've worked with several Codesmith alumni who got fantastic jobs after the 6-month window but pretty close to it that they report on and those people don't even show up in their results. So there's a lot more going on than just what outcome say on paper. both good and bad.

I want to add that I've looked at the curriculum for all of them and you can tell how Codesmith spends 1 week on DSA and 1 week on frontend (with two days on React), not even the smartest and most brilliant engineers I've worked with can learn those concepts that fast. So that's why the curriculum is somewhat relevant and it's more about the culture where you will feel supported and shine.

100% agree a motivated person can get an excellent outcome at any of them. You are in HR and sounds like you are doing well, so you probably fall in that bucket. I know a lot of people who have no idea if they are "motivated" but they think they might be. Some people are and have tremendous imposter syndrome and some people aren't and feel "tricked" thinking that a bootcamp will connect the dots to a six figure job, but really they shouldn't have gone there to begin with. Hitting the bar of acceptance is a good sign, but some people will need a lot more time to get to that job than others. It's really not cool for a self-taught chef with no college degree to think that Codesmith will get them a $140K salary because that was the median in New York for H2 2021. It might be cool for a electrical engineer who has 2 years of experience writing python scripts to think that they will get those median outcomes.