u/Responsible_Olive_57 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
I'd love to get some honest feedback on this program
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Two things to watch out for in that slide deck of outcomes
1. It's from 2024 and AI changes month to month. A number of industry engineers report not writing code anymore as of 3 months ago, so it's basically irrelevant what happened in 2024.
2. The 88% figure has some crazy fine print. If I'm reading it correctly, 88% of the people WHO GOT JOBS got them within six months and 12% took longer to get the job. But it's not the percentage of people that got a job.
TripleTen does a similar metric, but for TripleTen the weakness in the data is more that a huge number of people remain "active" by not graduating and not dropping out so they don't count in the stats and they are there too long to get job guarantee refunds.
I don't know if Hyperion is self paced with a similar gap but I would ask for clarity on the placement rates.
No program is perfect and any program that looks amazing in this market is shooting themselves in the foot because no one is believing that... so transparency and honesty are the way to go and my comments are not criticism but just trying to get a full picture.
That said, bootcamps, like Codesmith, don't want people like me poking around, so some programs take this kind of responsible questioning as an existential attack and text their alumni to go after critics. Others are transparent and honest and that's a much better way to build trust with their customers.
As I see from GitHub activity, Codesmith's immersive has almost no signs of life left that so maybe those things just catch up to the bootcamp eventually, I dunno.