Are Launch School and Codesmith the only ones with an Outcomes Report now?

Short answer yes. But long answer - Launch School still publishes detailed reports exactly 6 months after the cohort finishes and Codesmith published garbage reports to cover up their collapsing results. I would put Codesmith worse than the ones that don't publish reports because it's been misleading the public in my opinion and that is worse than if they didn't say anything at all. They keep saying how "transparent" they are and it's a giant performance and bull shit from people with no integrity. I spoke directly to one of their leaders on a phone call and I really just don't think they understand how messed up their own data is, or they won't admit it publicly because their company is collapsing and this is the nail in the coffin for them. More details on what that why I feel this way.... I'm a very centrist person and I have been centrist with Codesmith for 3 years. I used to recommend them to people but as things have fallen off a cliff... FIVE ROUNDS OF LAYOFFS (my count) and down to a skeleton crew of staff members. **AND THEY CONTINUE TO TELL YOU HOW AMAZING THEY ARE DOING!** I got 3 emails in the past two weeks saying how amazing they are doing. They keep laying off the most long standing, loyal, and beloved staff members and throwing them to the streets while their founder DOES NOT TEACH CLASSES HIMSELF. The Founder can't even write real code anymore and has **at most a few months of paid professional software engineer.** All the engineering-looking things in his past are not real in my research (IceComm was his Hack Reactor student project, Gem is possibly a real job, but it appears possibly while he was at Hack Reactor as a student so I'm not sure how real it is, and Ownly was a startup he was trying to do in school that went no where). His GitHub is empty. He is a giant phony. And instead of trying to save his company and save the 2+ year long instructors who went all in on Codesmith and drank the Koolaid, they are laid off with no warning. Shame on them for running this scam (in my opinion, not a fact) for so long. Anyways, clearly I'm very upset over this now and I lost my cool about it because I feel so so so so terrible for the people they laying off (even though those people don't like me so much). \----- Fact-wise if you think I'm being too emotional: In April 2025 (two months ago) Codesmith published their 2023 CIRR Report (2023 grads who job hunted for 12 months after they graduated). This report showed a 6 month placement rate dropping from 70% in 2022 to 42%. in 2023. And the 70% almost everyone reported their outcome to Codesmith and in 2023 only like 30% did and a bunch of placements were "verified using LinkedIn". Now the thing that makes me ABSOLUTELY FURIOUS is that this is 12 months after graduation... which means they knew the 6 months placements rates in **JULY 2024** and they knew 12 months placements rates for the H1 2023 grads then. They knew that 2023 outcomes were much worse and they **told the public repeatedly that outcomes were great. I have a bunch of their notes about how 'strong' and 'incredible' and 'impressive' the outcomes were, etc... etc...**

WHEN you went matters a lot. If you went during "era 1" (2012 to 2016) then it was a great time! App Academy too! If you went between 2020 and 2022 - Launch School, Codesmith, Rithm School were all that your heard about. Now - Rithm closed, Codesmith should have closed, and Launch School is the only program to remotely consider (after doing core for a year) and it's the only one that advertises itself honestly as the "slow path" to becoming an engineer.

I don't care either way, but if a program is publishing how amazing their outcomes are when they are good and goes RADIO SILENT when they are bad it pisses me off. Codesmith's CIRR results tanked so they started publishing random time windows of absolute number of placements and then then even stopped doing that because in the past six months it's like fifty or something and a number of them have been looking for over a year. I criticize them LEGITIMATELY and they come back with garbage data. I bet their response to this is 'Michael is an asshole our placements are amazing, we had an average increase in salary over previous work of $70K so far this year! who cares if there aren't as many placements it's take people longer that's fine, it's all about average increase.' My point is that changing the goal posts and each time telling everyone how "transparent" you are is garbage behavior from people with no integrity. I don't give a crap if Codesmith is a good intentioned program, if a number of alumni said it changed their lives, etc... my arguments aren't arguing against that and no one will ever take these amazing things away from them. The problem is the scheming and lying to trick people into having false hope and then gaslighting me for calling them out on it. Ironically, the employees responsible for this behavior are the only ones left and everyone else has departed at this point... protip Codesmith - look in the mirror and defeat that enemy before coming at me.

To give you an idea of how things have changed - if you went to Codesmith and graduated in 2022. 95% of people who started graduated, 70% of the graduates got jobs within 6 months of graduating (and 90% of them reported their placement to Codesmith) = 63% "self reported placement" If you graduated in 2023: 95% of people who started graduated, 43.6% got jobs within 6 months of graduating (only 60% reported their placement to Codesmith - **A MAJOR DECLINE =** 26% "self reported placement rate" \---------- Codesmith hasn't given any 2024 placement data even though **ALMOST ALL 2024 GRADS HAVE HAD 6 MONTHS POST PLACEMENT AND THEY INTERNALLY KNOW THE DATA** The reason I'm so enraged here is that in 2024 when they internally knew about that major decline, they told the public that even in a tough market, Codesmith was crushing it. They conveniently pulled all these blog posts from their blog when they moved over to their new site last week. .... but they weren't crushing it. Graduates disappeared and the placement rate tanked to almost nothing garbage level. Did they acknowledge this? No. Did I know about this stuff anyways and call them out during this time? Yes. And they flat out gaslit me so I'm yelling loud and clear for the world to hear.

Do you know if they hiring partnerships have been impacted with the market? ADA Developers Academy was one of my top recommendations but they were really hit hard by companies shutting down their internships and it hasn't fully bounced back yet.