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Course Report "Best Bootcamp of 2024" awards appear to be a scam to me (in my personal opinion). Don't fall for it.

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u/michaelnovati posted · ★ FEATURED
Course Report "Best Bootcamp of 2024" awards appear to be a scam to me (in my personal opinion). Don't fall for it. I saw a bootcamp and it's CEO produly talking about how they got a Best Bootcamp of 2024 award from Course Report and were so proud of their team for getting the award. I looked into this a bit more. 1. DOZENS OF BOOTCAMPS (like any legitimate bootcamp it appears) got a best bootcamp of 2024 award. It was hard to find common bootcamps that did NOT get the award. 2. It appears that all or almost all of the bootcamps that pay Course Report for marketing got the award (2U bootcamps didn't and are shutting down) 3. One of the bootcamps that got the award had ONE REVIEW IN ALL OF 2024 and somehow still got the award. 4. Another bootcamp paid their graduates with gift cards to write reviews and Course Report still gave them a best bootcamp award. **54 out of the first 100 listed bootcamps got the "Best Bootcamp of 2024" award**: * Le Wagon * BrainStation * Nucamp * Springboard * CareerFoundry * App Academy * Ironhack * Correlation One * Designlab * General Assembly * Coding Dojo * Actualize * Codesmith * Flatiron School * CourseCareers * Tech Elevator * TripleTen * Makers Academy * The Tech Academy * Clarusway * Avocademy * Product Gym by Elevate * Coding Temple * Fullstack Academy * NYC Data Science Academy * Devmountain * DigitalCrafts * Hack Reactor * WBS CODING SCHOOL * Careerist * Jedha * LearningFuze * Henry * Turing College * Sabio * TrueCoders * Nuclio School * JobPrepped * Turing School of Software & Design * Product School * Test Pro * Codeworks * Claim Academy * 4Geeks Academy * Colaberry * Evolve Security Academy * Elevate * Skill Distillery * Big Blue Data Academy * Constructor Academy * Code Platoon * MAX Technical Training * UX Design Institute * RevoU

u/metalreflectslime wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

>54 out of the first 100 listed bootcamps What does "first 100 listed bootcamps" mean in this context?

u/michaelnovati replied ·
The first 100 listed under "All Schools"

u/cglee wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

Surprised that I don't recognize most companies on this list.

u/michaelnovati replied ·
Launch School has one too but wasnt in the first 100 I looked at. There are more but I didn't have time to keep going and if I did, I would build a scrapper extract all of them.

u/Alison_Parker_007 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

Thank you for making this list. I was exploring CMU Techbridge Bootcamp and another one which I started a new thread on but I couldn’t find these bootcamps anywhere when I searched. Will explore these too.

u/michaelnovati replied ·
The whole point is that many of these could be bad bootcamps but they seem to get the award for marketing or for arbitrary reasons and it means nothing and you are being manipulated.

u/mistivoid wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

Top bootcamps in your opinion?

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Currently not recommending any bootcamps overall for everyone and only recommending specific ones to specific people based on their personal circumstances. Unfortunately there have been so many downsizings and meetings that and layoffs that even a bootcamp that was good six months ago but be completely different now. Someone on YouTube just started Codesmith this week and said it seemed like a "cult" and their instructors can't answer basic questions and the CEO is never around and the person seemed very upset. And while I've always criticized Codesmith, it seems to be getting worse and worse the more they shed staff. I used to recommend them as a top bootcamp and paused when they made major cutbacks in February and promised tons of changes. Then officially recommended avoiding them after they didn't make many changes and started new marketing campaigns doubling down on their mediocre results instead and sent people to go after me on Reddit instead of addressing the legit criticisms. Launch School might be the only school who hasn't laid people off and is relatively similar sized throughout. I think many super fan Alumni from the past would find the old top bootcamps unrecognizable if they redid them today from scratch.

u/Geezersteez wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

This is typical in many industries, everyone gets a friggin “participation” award... if you pay the fee.

u/michaelnovati replied ·
Yeah, but it's different in an industry promising you $100K mid level and senior engineer roles in 12 weeks and charging you $22K.

u/cglee wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

I got an email in Jan 2024 that Launch School was in the "top 39 bootcamps", but I never got another one about being in the top 100

u/michaelnovati replied ·
To clarify the "100" was the first 100 items in whatever their default search ranking is. But there are more than 39 top bootcamps that I found