Thanks for sharing. I like the job breakdown to help tell a picture of what's going on.
Are the placement times coming in part 3? If not, can you comment on relative placement times both for these grads compared to prior windows and for people within this window. For example, were people graduating in 2022 placed faster than people graduating in 2023 or now.
I think it's important to have just qualitative insights if there isn't data, to try to compare... I'm seeing the market being particularly rough right now compared to last year even for bootcamp grads.
u/jcasimir wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
It's really hard to count an accurate "time to hire" because there's just so much variability when you consider internships, contract-to-hire, internship at Place A and eventual job at Place B, etc.
There's also a dramatic variability in the voracity of a job hunt. It's not unco
u/michaelnovatireplied·★ FEATURED
yeah 3-6 months post graduation is quite fast right now. if someone was starting today how much time would you recommend they budget and account for?
totally understand the challenges when someone takes a part time job to pay the bills - it's very good idea for the person, but challenging for DATA lol.
I'm crazy busy right now, might have more q's, but one more question is how engaged are alumni during the job hunt and how confident are you you are hearing from all of them when they get jobs etc... This is a problem with CIRR right now. We saw in the recent Codesmith report that there was a spike in H2 2022 grads who were non-responsive and placed via their LinkedIn's listing a job.
Which is fine, a placement is a placement, but I'm just curious about that more personally. If there are things you do post graduation to keep people engaged, etc...