u/Impossible_Ad_3146 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Is it free, CodeSmith? I see this application but how much is it https://app.codesmith.io/apply?program=csprep
u/michaelnovati replied ·
It's just under $22K for 13 weeks
Should I join CodeSmith?
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u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
I know a lot about Codesmith. It's the best program at what it does, if you are ambitious, doing well as a ChemE/consultant, want a good job at a non-top-tier tech company, and have enough coding experience to pass the bar. If you will frame your experience in the most SWE way and run with it... it does work.
It's not a good place to go if you have no professional experience, want to be 100% honest about background, want an entry level job (you will be told over and over how you are a midlevel engineer by doing Codesmith), then it's not a good place to go.
u/GAguilar45 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
That’s wild 😳
u/michaelnovati replied ·
Harvard is $57,261 for 30 weeks a year = $1908 a week. Codesmith is $1676 a week.
So yeah it's expensive, but they say they have the outcomes of an ivy league grad school for a fraction of the price
u/CodesAndCoffee wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Hi, Michael. Codesmith is too expensive for me to attend. Do you know anything about Learning Fuze? It seems to have the same high ratings as Codesmith on Course Report.
u/michaelnovati replied ·
I don't trust any ratings at all, especially Course Report.
Codesmith had almost no reviews in 2024 and offered people people who successfully got jobs swag to write reviews and got like 20 in two weeks.
It can easily be manipulated in various ways and they make money from bootcamp sponsorships.
u/AdExciting1828 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Thanks for the advice! My current job is all tech and no chemical engineering at all. We lightly modify existing software rather than build one. But we do the planning, deployment, maintenance, security, etc. I can transition within my company to a software engineering role once
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Hmm it sounds of all the bootcamps Codesmith might be a good choice.
If you have been doing the tech consulting for a few years, consider career accelerators. I'm the co-founder of Formation but I don't think we would accept you with your background - need more direct SWE experience, but others are Pathrise and Interview Kickstart - to compare and see what's out there options wise.
I would also consider a CS masters - a bit slower and more expensive but a good option if you want it to go the honest and traditional route.
For example, if you go to Codesmith you might end up calling your consulting work Software Engineer on your resume and push to get senior jobs at non tech companies. And if that feels good, definitely do Codesmith, if not, maybe do a masters.
u/SimilarGlass5 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
The breakdown into weekly pay is a disingenuous and unsubtle attempt by a competing program provider to discredit them. It's a 3-month course so comparing its price per week with a four-year course that will cost far more in total isn't a transparent way of looking at it.
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Did you read above where I recommended the person go there?
I've asked you to stop repeating incorrectly that my company competes with Codesmith and the official on the record answer is we do not at this time. I've corrected that numerous times now and repeating that is harassing and I'm asking you to stop. If you think we compete with them prove it or say that it's your "opinion" that we compete with them.