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My 2-day experience at Flatiron School that cost me $1,290. Bait and Switch.

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u/michaelnovati replied ·
Most states have rules about a certain about of free trial period, I would look into that.

u/metalreflectslime wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

> about Do you mean "amount"?

u/michaelnovati replied ·
yes

u/starraven wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

Yeah there’s a reason everyone talks about codesmith.. you should try them out

u/michaelnovati replied ·
\+1 Codesmith is one of the most consistent experiences, even as they are making adjustments right now. I always recommend people look at Codesmith and see if it's a good fit for them.

u/Rare_Channel_1358 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

I know you're a busy guy so don't go out of your way, but do you happen to know if SC has any protections? I could have sworn they had something, but I can't find my contract.

u/michaelnovati replied ·
Look here maybe, but I don't think they are registered there: [https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vR5jkzQ5F0HJ1Vqk\_M-Sg62vTj0qq0OatFYfTDNoXxNLN6uU4vy\_UWiFnTXcdlzfvSV9pTGNxOkgysC/pub](https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vR5jkzQ5F0HJ1Vqk_M-Sg62vTj0qq0OatFYfTDNoXxNLN6uU4vy_UWiFnTXcdlzfvSV9pTGNxOkgysC/pub) I would look at the "consumer protection agencies" in SC and look around there.

u/InTheDarkDancing wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

You know yourself better than me. All I'll say is it's not like Codesmith lectures are mana from heaven. I'd be careful of building up some sort of picture in your head that the Codesmith lectures will be perfectly paced and everyone will be on the same page at the same time.

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
+1 to this, don't go to Codesmith for content. The instructors are your mentors and guides who care about you succeeding but.there just isn't enough time to really teach anything. From their website it also appears their prior curriculum developer departed at the same time as the recent batch of layoffs.

u/Rare_Channel_1358 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

I was one of the only students who understood almost everything. I was helping the other students with everything. All of that stuff I already did in Codesmith workshops with Phil. :) It was just the fact that the instructor had no awareness of where the students were. In codesm

u/michaelnovati replied ·
FWIW Phil actually went to Codesmith a long time ago and doesn't have the best rep with staff. He works insanely hard and helps keep the ship running but I would recommend working with more instructors before judging them.