Hating on bootcamps

I think if you sign up via Course Report you can save more than $750. https://www.coursereport.com/schools/springboard "Scholarships" tab They are one of the sponsors of Course Report, like Code Fellows, Codesmith, and others and they pay Course Report money to promote their programs with social media and videos.

I also observe a lot of projecting of ones experiences onto the industry. Another thing to watch out for is confirmation bias, and assuming something you think is good because one or two people say it it. I'm going to comment more on CS degrees, which is a common topic as Dancing said. All of that said, you can't learn as much in a bootcamp as you can in a really good CS degree. That doesn't mean you can't get as good as a job, just in terms of the breadth of things you get exposed to and the time you get to explore lots of different things. I didn't even do a CS degree... I did a general engineering degree where I did civil engineering, chemical engineering, materials engineers, in addition to over a dozen CS courses like DS&A, Databases, Distributed Systems, Operating Systems, Computer Architecture, Signal Processing, Electrical Engineering, Computer Graphics, Human Computer Interaction, History of Science, original research that produced an award wining paper, in additional to a ton of math courses likes 3 calculus courses, linear algebra, complex math, differential equations, etc... Do I need all of that? No. But when I started college I didn't know what I wanted to do, I thought I wanted to built robots. And I now have a breadth of knowledge and experience that I feel helps me creatively solve problems now as an engineer. I progressed in my career extremely fast, I was promoted from junior to senior at Facebook in under a year. So the TLDR, it's not just about the job you get out of the bootcamp. I'm obviously bias here because a large number of people I work with have done bootcamps in the past and there are gaps in fundamental CS skills that limit people from progressing farther, even for those who have worked for a few years. But that's why there are options to keep developing your skills throughout your career if you want to do so. And I might argue that shorter training -> job -> more training -> better job -> more training -> better job is long term model that could replace traditional education. But 12 week bootcamp replacing CS degrees will not.

The head of outcomes at Codesmith says almost quote unquote in Codesmith job hunting lectures that Codesmith has proven to be better than Harvard and Stanford. I'm assuming he's referring to a biased survey (from Switchup - which is sponsored by bootcamps) from several years ago regarding placement rates. Stuff like that doesn't help anyone in the industry on how bootcamps are perceived.

FAANG pays about 200K first year TC in SF/NYC Typical Google offer: 135K base, 20K per year or stock, 10K signing bonus, 15% target bonus = 185K Typical Amazon offer: 160K base, 40K bonus, 5K stock Palantir is about 155K base, 45K stock Microsoft is lower at like 120K base, 15K stock, 10K signing, performance stock and cash These are recent common offers. Levels.fyi has more info. But people often don't include the proper things in their TC. Even the numbers above don't include benefits and these places offer some incredible health care that would cost like 2K a month for a normal person.