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Codesmith Bootcamp Curriculum/Pace

2 of Michael's comments in this thread · View thread on Reddit ↗

u/thorth18 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

Have not gone to Codesmith, just throwing out another question here: 1. How long into the course did you do leetcode style questions in the morning? I see that it’s 1 per day. That’s the part that really appears to separate Codesmith from other bootcamps. But, you can also leetc

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
I've worked with a lot of (10+) Codesmith alumni who come to Formation and can comment on some trends where I think the DS&A bar is at. Most have a good starting DS&A, not quite at the top tier bar. Most get through the basics relatively quickly compared to other bootcamp grads but most people need some reinforcement/relearning in one or more areas. They then spend a similar amount of time as everyone else on the intermediate (and advanced) concepts that are needed to consistently be at the FAANG bar. In general, bootcamps are not the best environment for teaching DS&A because of the fixed timeframe and fixed curriculum structure. These aren't just problems to pass an interview, but it SHOULD be about learning abstract concepts and patterns that be applied to solve complex real world problems. People learn these at different paces and have different degrees of and areas of interest. So doing a problem a day with peers is great practice to increase you chances of passing an interview, but in my (SUPER BIASED!) opinion, it takes more breathing room to become very strong in the fundamentals.

u/stoph311 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

Generally speaking, do you find any correlation between Codesmith grads vs. Launch School grads in their ability to prove themselves as a competent developer (and land a good job) after their programs end?

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Formation hasn't worked with or talked to any Launch School Capstone grads because so I can't compare. They have very small cohorts and are less frequent. Launch Schools projects though are way more in depth than the Codesmith OSPs (anyone from Codesmith check them out and don't trust me!) but mostly because they spend a long time on them. \-This is an example: [https://tailslide-io.github.io/#landing](https://tailslide-io.github.io/#landing) \-Note the pages and pages of proper documentation \-An entire GitHub company for the project with 10 repos. \-An extremely thorough case study with pages and pages of well organized write up!