Ah my favorite topic haha. So one resource is CIRR. It's a business group started by bootcamps to develop standards for reporting audited outcomes that they all agree with.
Unfortunately it's down to only 5 bootcamps reporting in the recent results and has been on the decline each half. Quite frankly, the results other than Codesmith are not great so people have little incentive to keep publishing results as they will probably be used against the bootcamp.
HackReactor and BloomTech publish their own audited reports as well, but just following their own metrics rather than CIRRs.
I have a strong stance on metrics and don't love any of the above reports as they focus on medians and averages.
You want to know what someone with a similar background felt about the program. These numbers get juiced up by people with CS degrees and experience attending and getting high outcomes.
I would use them to narrow down to a handful of legit bootcamps: Codesmith, HackReactor, Rithm School, App Academy for example. And then try to contact people who went through the programs who started off similar to yourself and talk to them. People are super open to talking if you reach out!
u/6789dive wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
What's your opinion on Turing?
u/michaelnovatireplied·
I don’t know enough about it to comment either way.
u/Flaky_Ad5384 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Opinion on trilogy university bootcamps?
u/michaelnovatireplied·
I don't know much about their curriculum but they seem to have a lot of turnover. Someone on here said they get 1 or 2 weeks to drop out tuition free, and this person dropped out a week after and had to sue them to get a refund. They said 75% of people had dropped out in the first week. Now this is someone clearly disgruntled so take that with a grain of salt.
Now what I do have an opinion on is that I really don't like how they convinced so many top universities in CS to run programs in their continuing studies departments under the university's name. I've heard a lot of stories about people who didn't realize this and joined thinking it was a UTAustin or UW or Columbia program. I have no problem at all if they offer courses in partnerships with the universities, just wish this was clearer. This might be the universities fault 🤷♂️
I probably wouldn't have them on MY shortlist but each person has different goals and needs.
u/Puzzleheaded-Part-17 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
What are your thoughts on BloomTech? As a Y Combinator backed company, they seem to face a lot of negative press that so just don’t see with the other boot camps.
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I have a lot of thought on them and have been following for a while. They have audited outcomes that are really not great (something around 50% of people who start get a job within 6 months of graduating and the median salary is quite low compared to the national averages for engineers).
So this is a bit of secret but they use to have this webpage where they listed all of their new grads who were available to hire. I was monitoring that page month to month and something in the low dozens out of many hundreds were hired every month. Their CEOs tweets make it seem like a lot more people are graduating and getting top tier jobs.
I have a minor beef with them personally. One of their alumni came to Formation 2 years and 2 jobs after leaving Bloomtech. We helped them very briefly to interview and negotiate their top tier offer and then Bloomtech shouted out this offer as a success case for THEM. They really had nothing to do with that offer yet it was shouted out in their channels as a placement for them.
I do think it’s a decent option if you really have zero experience in tech and live in an area with zero tech.
u/Husky45 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Thoughts on coding dojo from your experience?
u/michaelnovatireplied·
I'm also not familiar enough with them. I have worked with a few alumni who struggled to get jobs and they were not quite prepared for legit jobs right out of Coding Dojo and I spent a lot of time working with them to get them ready.
So they are quite a large program at this point so I expect a wide range of outcomes. Based on their anecdotal reputation, it seems like they are fairly expensive, not doing anything particularly better or worse than others, but generally aren't fantastic.
The biggest criticism I feel barely qualified to make is that I think their bar for entry is too low and that contributes to the above (very large program, large variance of outcomes). So like all my advice, I would consider them along with all your options and do extensive background checking. I would not choose them if you get rejected from other bootcamp and accepted here and it's your only option.