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Completed a bootcamp after being unable to complete CS degree. Feeling lost.

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u/michaelnovati replied ·
All of these are possible options but the ranking depends on your personal situation. Apprenticeships are typically better, even though they pay less for the first year. They are also typically a fixed term, but have a much better than of converting, much more support, and I would generally recommend a top tier apprenticeship. That said, apprenticeships are really focused on specific goals for the company and it truly depends on your specific circumstances. Feel free to DM me a linked in or resume and I can give some quick slightly better recommendations.

u/BeggingForBags wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

>There are \~20K bootcamp grads a year source? And is this for america only?

u/michaelnovati replied · · edited
Sure: https://www.coursereport.com/2021-guide-to-coding-bootcamps-by-course-report.pdf They said 23K in the latest report, but I'm ball parking an average from 2018 onward because I think these numbers might have some variance.

u/AndyC50 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

Alternatively, don't pay the outrageous 15% of your salary on some overpriced leetcode course. Show some initiative and just leetcode and study DS/A on your own. I highly recommend anyone reading to not go to the shameless ad for formation.dev. do 3-4LC a day and work your way u

u/michaelnovati replied · · edited
I would absolutely recommend what you suggest for a lot of people. Like I said above, everyone has different goals and need a personal recommendation for what's best for them. We have a high bar to work with someone and many people are not a good fit either. Our team is unparalleled right now and we are striving to help people get to top tier companies, if that's not for you, don't do it. Some members on our team: 1. FB, 8 years, E7, created coding machine archetype for 2. FB, 5 years, E7, advised Mark Zuckerberg and reported to the CTO 3. FB, 8 years, MSFT 10 years, created interview types, trained interviewers at FB 4. FB, 8 years, trained interviewers at FB 5. FB, 10 years, recruiter and ran internship program for thiusands of interns 6. Many others, one person ran bootcamp career services at several bootcamps over 8 years, 8 years of marketing at FB, and many people with amazing experience as well. To show what I mean about top tier, the last 20 signs unedited, in order are: Meta, Cloudtrucks, Plaid, 1Password, GitHub, Microsoft, Google, Meta, Google, Snap, Akasa, Atlassian, Pandora, Atlassian, Amazon, Promise Pay, Square, Capital One, Facebook, Amazon The range of backgrounds varies all over the place and I reemphasize that everyone is different and needs personal advice.

u/AndyC50 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

Alternatively, don't pay the outrageous 15% of your salary on some overpriced leetcode course. Show some initiative and just leetcode and study DS/A on your own. I highly recommend anyone reading to not go to the shameless ad for formation.dev. do 3-4LC a day and work your way u

u/michaelnovati replied · · edited ★ FEATURED
If you have specific feedback on how we can improve our coaching, let us know. We support you until you get that outcome, but time is the variable, and we are always trying to be more and more efficient. We coach people on DS&A, System Design, frontend and live coding, technical behavioral, negotiation. It's all personalized and if you talk to a former Formation Fellow you might get a better idea since I might not explain clearly what we do. I would love to clear up any misunderstanding.