A lot of developers from bootcamps are not landing jobs. A lot that are are not landing them at strong tech companies that have rigid hiring bars. DSA still dominate the top tier company interview processes.
I work with a lot of people who did bootcamp -> job, and work on DSA amongst other skills to help level up to top tier roles and it's a very lacking piece.
I don't think bootcamps teach DSA properly for a few reasons:
1. They generally don't have staff who are good at it
2. It takes time and bootcamps are short, so they focus on the easiest to train skills
3. DSA are hard and people already find bootcamp material hard and stressful, so a heavy DSA focus would probably make even more people leave.
u/lungfisk wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
That sounds like a bad bootcamp.
Mine had a full unit on DSA (binary trees, hash tables, linked lists, recursion, bubble & merge sort), and spent the first hour of every single day doing "Hack Hour" problems which were basically LC easies for the first half, and mediums for the
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Codesmith grads get good jobs because they do large scale group projects that they leverage as work experience and get supported with references for background checks to maximize the legitimacy of those projects. It's a model working pretty well and I don't dispute the audited outcomes, BUT the DSA is absolutely not sufficient.
I'm very familiar with their DSA program, have interviewed many Codesmith grads, and have helped many Codesmith grads strengthen DSA to get top tier jobs. I was an E7 principal engineer at Facebook for 8 years, interviewed hundreds of people and am very familiar with the bar necessary.
u/lungfisk wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
I wasn't making any claims about the quality of the DSA program - just responding to the idea that bootcamp grads shouldn't be expected to know anything about it.
Which bootcamps would you say have better DSA programs?
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Oh ok cool sorry! Yeah I just didn't want people thinking any bootcamp will sufficiently prepare them for DSA at a top tier level and saw your Codesmith comment below (consolidating comments here). I don't know every bootcamp everywhere and I only want to comment on things I feel confident in, but I havent seen one yet that prepares for top tier DSA well.
I know Codesmith and some others well because I work with a lot of bootcamp grads a year or more into their career who need a lot of support in getting to that bar.