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Should list your bootcamp under education in a resume?

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u/michaelnovati replied ·
This is such a tough problem and I hope we have some good discussions on here. On an individual 1-1 basis, I strongly believe people should put it on their resumes and be proud of it. Your resume should tell your story and journey, and this is a part of it. And the more unique and interesting your overall journey, the more likely it will be to get calls - despite the stigma of a bootcamp. From the company side, because some bootcamps encourage people NOT to put it on their resumes it has really pissed off a lot of bigger companies when they find bootcamp grads that squeezed through the process for experienced roles they weren't qualified for and waste interviews time. At Facebook, there was nothing more damaging than wasting an engineers time and when this happened - even once - there would be outrage. As a result, some recruiters at companies just ignore all bootcamp grads and anyone who looks like they might be because the engineers who interview them in the next round get so upset. This isn't meant to say bootcamp grads aren't qualified for good jobs, it's because the roles they are squeezing through are competing against people with a few years of industry experience and they no matter how much potential a bootcamp grad has, you can't fake experience and these top companies figure that out in interviews instantly. TLDR: The underlying problem is that there are not enough junior or entry level jobs for all the bootcamp grads and faking your resume to try to squeeze through to other roles is a edge case industry hack that when too many people do - damages the industry as a whole.

u/Apart-Damage143 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

If this is the case I’d would rather not have it on and hope for the best!

u/michaelnovati replied ·
And that's the dilemma. Don't put it on, cross your fingers, better chance at job, but hurt all your peers who are applying right now. Or put it on, tell your story, and cross your fingers someone finds it appealing. But gets rejected just for going to bootcamp.

u/Apart-Damage143 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

Just curious how does it hurt my peers?

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
I tried to explain the consequences in the above, if enough people do it, then companies will raise their YOE requirements to "4 years for entry level roles" and they will just ignore resumes without at least 1 year of experience - to weed out any bootcamp grads exaggerating their projects to be close to a year (like I see on all the Codesmith resumes that apply to my company)