Codesmith School Performance Fact Sheet Substantially Different from CIRR Outcomes?

I believe they include that same information in their enrollment agreement as well and a few people have pointed that out to me, that it seems much worse than CIRR and that the it forces them to show salary buckets under $100K and that they go pretty low below $100K whereas in CIRR "under $100K" comes across as a higher amount. So my understanding is that this is a result of different standards. I constantly say this and constantly get attacked by throwaway accounts, but CIRR HAS FLAWS. It's setup by bootcamp insiders to have a common and clear standard, but it's also setup with little small nuances to make the top level reported numbers look the best possible and in the best light. The regulatory information probably has stricter guidelines because people can be heavily fined for not complying, but it might not tell the full story behind the numbers either. For example, they regulatory numbers might not consider certain common student scenarios that should legitimately be excluded. THE MORAL OF THE STORY IS DON'T TRUST ONE OR TWO BIG NUMBERS TO MAKE JUDGEMENTS. If it was easy, there wouldn't be constant posts in this subreddit asking for help choosing a bootcamp. There isn't a single best bootcamp for everyone and there isn't a single number or set of numbers that single handedly rate a bootcamp's outcomes.

I think Launch School Capstone by itself is the only thing you can compare to a bootcamp head to head. The actual "capstone" projects blow Codesmith OSPs out of the water. I think they are what the Codesmith OSPs aspire to be. A big difference is the documentation... Launch School Capstone projects are documented like open source projects SHOULD be. They are fantastic though in part because of such tiny cohort size that has been growing, so will keep an eye on the next waves of them. And they also want you to do Core first, so it's hard to recommend to someone who is already chosen Codesmith. You should probably be choosing Launch School Core before you even start CSX months ago if you want to do Capstone. Launch School Core is pretty hard to compare to anything. It's maybe more comparable to Nu Camp. Both are fairly async. Nu Camp also doesn't have outcomes because self-service, lower cost platforms have much higher drop off rates than bootcamps and people do it for a wider range of reasons than just trying to get a job. So it's pretty hard to look at numbers.