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With so many beginners here (myself included), can someone with experience explain the state of the job market?

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u/stoph311 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

Thanks for the reply. Just curious...where are you located and what bootcamp did you attend?

u/michaelnovati replied ·
I wrote this up on another post, but it's not as dire as it sounds right now. As usual, it's somewhere in between. https://www.reddit.com/r/codingbootcamp/comments/xs5mof/comment/iqj21mb/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3

u/stoph311 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

Thank you. Would you say that bootcamps like Codesmith truthfully prepare candidates for junior and some senior level roles like they claim?

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Yeah I think Codesmith prepares you for entry level roles very well yeah. My definition of entry level is a full-blown SWE job where, while you have support, you are an independent valuable contributor with no strings attached. I know some people call "entry level" or "junior roles" more like training like roles, and maybe Codesmith calls "mid level" what I call "entry level"? All I know is they said 75% of graduates get mid level roles and 20% get senior roles (note: this has been removed from their LinkedIn, not sure if they still claim this), yet only 20% of people make over $140K base. All of the mid-level roles I know about in solid tech companies have starting salaries of at least $140K base right now. So my hunch is that it's a different definition of midlevel and senior, etc... Regardless, the short answer is yes, they prepare you very well for a legitimate role as a programmer.