u/CopiousCool wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
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u/michaelnovatireplied·
Some people believe in manifesting positivity to build confidence. I actually think it helps a lot if the market is good and you need to stand out. Right now it's irrational to do a bootcamp.
I've been evaluating things rationally for 3 years now, pushing numerous bootcamps on what I perceive as 'reality' vs what they are 'marketing'.
Each bootcamp is unique and shouldn't be bundled together, but it's been a rough go for most of them the past few years. One or more bootcamps are down to less than a skeleton crew of staff and still charging $20K+.
It's been very costly for my personal reputation to do this with zero benefit.
Be careful not to cross the wrong people in this industry.
u/AngusAlThor wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Wait, do those stupid bootcamps genuinely cost that much? Fucking hell the US sucks, I paid about that much for my degree.
u/michaelnovatireplied·★ FEATURED
Current price: Codesmith: $22,500 (14 weeks). Launch School "18% of your first year salary, or $18k (USD)" (16 weeks), Hack Reactor: $19,480.
Enrollment at Codesmith based on OSLabs Github projects appears to have dropped from about 1000 people in 2023 to about 100(?) people in 2025 and like a dozen in the past 3 months?
Launch School had 71 people in 2023 and 76 in 2024, so it's maybe capturing the market share since that's actually higher.
So not that many people are paying that much no more.