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u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Hi there, I'm the co-founder of Formation, and feel free to ping me with your name/email if you want some more advice on areas to work on. Our bar is high and our assessment process is hard and you shouldn't feel bad. I want to reiterate that most people we work with (70%+ as of our last count) have worked for at least a year in SWE jobs so it should be expected to be hard as a bootcamp grad. Our assessment is not an objective test so much as it's meant to help us pattern match you against other people we've worked with. We want to get a baseline of where you are at, and based on a meeting about your goals, if we can get you to where you want to go. If you got a perfect score you might not even need our help! Anyways feel free to reach out regardless with maybe your LinkedIn and a little more info and I can try to give you some more advice!

u/FredtheredGGMU wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

Yeah, codesmith prepares you for mid-senior level roles.

u/michaelnovati replied · · edited ★ FEATURED
Codesmith doesn’t prepare people with zero prior experience for mid level and senior roles. I know they say they do, and edge cases do happen, but they are not using the canonical FAANG leveling system when they say 70% of people get mid level jobs and 25% get senior roles. According to their audited data 80% of people make under $140K and a mid level FAANG engineer is making at least $150K base and likely $175K…. so clearly they are using different definitions here.