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Question for Codesmith students and Alumni: What percentage of your cohort already had professional experience?

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u/dowcet wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

I see 138 people who have Codesmith listed as a school (so that excludes people who work there but didn't study there): [https://www.linkedin.com/search/results/people/?schoolFilter=%5B%2215251239%22%5D](https://www.linkedin.com/search/results/people/?schoolFilter=%5B%2215251239%

u/michaelnovati replied ·
A lot those people actually other than later on too and don't have it on for their actual job hunt

u/eneka wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

do codesmith grads list codesmith in their resume/linked in? I thought there was a whoel debacle on how they don't and list other "proffessional" exeperience

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
this is correct. it's very hard to find alumni but because of the tremendous structure that Codesmith has in its resume guidance it is absolutely possible to find people. The most consistent way is to look for their open source project announcements which are blasted pretty much everywhere and then you can collect a list of people's LinkedIns. Your question is probably better for CSX Slack because there are a lot of alumni there. The downside is that it's mostly successful alumni who continue to participate in the community and people who failed out of Codesmith tend to disappear quietly and they don't complain because they put the blame on themselves and I found anecdotally that those people are more often people who don't have any kind of professional experience, even outside of engineering.

u/AcademicPlankton6630 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

Graduated around the end of 2022. 10% (3-4) of the cohort had worked either independently in software development or in some adjacent role.

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
You hit the worst timing luck for sure :(. You joined Codesmith when people were still getting Amazon and C1 offers, you graduated right when the tides turned. Then you job hunt and get the suggested '5 or 6 interviews just for practice to get warmed up' out of the way in Jan/Feb when hiring picked up a tad, and then did real job hunting during the worst time period. Then by the time hiring picks up for real - people are demoralized and jaded.

u/AcademicPlankton6630 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

10% has swe experience. Prob 70% got offers by 6 mo.

u/michaelnovati replied ·
Nice yeah that makes more sense 50 to 70%ish range and a straggler that might be 30%