u/Other_Trouble_3252 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Hi, I’m a tech recruiter and I have thoughts.
A couple of years ago there was a very high demand for software engineering professionals but a deficit of folks in typical CS programs.
We saw this big surge of boot camps as the “fix” in these immersive programs you could gain a
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u/Chanceawrapper wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Any bootcamp? No. The best ones? Yes you absolutely still can. The one I went to is independently audited every year.
For the 2022 remote full time session. 80% hired within 180 days with median salary of 127,000. 85% of those making over 100k.
https://cirr.org/data
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u/michaelnovatireplied·★ FEATURED
Codesmith is pretty controversial in the industry outside of the bootcamp-bubble - not that it's bad, just that it's polarizing in both directions. [Reference for controversy (it's an old post but still an ongoing controversy)](https://www.reddit.com/r/TechLA/comments/b7xl98/codesmith_coding_bootcamp_scam_beware/)
I know their program extremely well and I usually recommend it for ambitious people who can commit 9am to 8pm weekdays + saturdays and who are typically successful already in another professional career.
But it's not a place for everyone who just wants to make $100K and thinks getting into Codesmith is the golden ticket. The people who don't get jobs often feel like they shouldn't have gone in the first place because it wasn't the right program for them.
u/Droidger wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
What are some of these top tier bootcamps? When I was interviewing candidates at FAANG even graduates of Hack Reactor or App Academy were incredibly weak on fundamentals, and these were supposed to be the good ones. Are there better ones now?
u/michaelnovatireplied·★ FEATURED
In no particular order these are generally good, but each is different and depends on you: Codesmith, Rithm School, Launch School Capstone, Hack Reactor, App Academy.
I wouldn't judge too hard from CIRR reports - they are useful to identify if a school is legit or not - in order to investigate further, but CIRR is a business league established by bootcamps and it's not a super well written specification - with little details that steer in favor of bootcamps.
Talking to recent alumni and figuring out which program day-to-day is a good fit for you is most important, and using data to identify which programs to investigate is step 1.