u/CodedCoder wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
You can not say anything bad about CodeSmiht here, there little clown bots come out of the wood work to defend them because they are scared if Codesmith si bad it means they are bad, and if they say it is good, then it makes it good.
u/michaelnovatireplied·★ FEATURED
Okay it's not that bad and being so negative only provokes them to be more defensive!!
But yeah if you say bad things about Codesmith, you get weird anonymous accounts on both sides coming out of the woodwork (my observation is that it's mostly supporting Codesmith, but not 100%).
I used to have way more crazy convos on here when people didn't know me, but day in day out I've been unexpectedly consistent and students, graduates, employees, managers, etc... have noticed, sent me volumes of interesting information and facts and anonymous trolls can attack facts - whether for or against.
u/Top-Measurement-7216 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
My friend found the role through linkedin -- it was a local role in his city not remote and a niche market he was passionate about. He sent out about 60 applications.
u/michaelnovatireplied·★ FEATURED
Update us in a year. I have an analysis of 1000+ Codesmith grads a year into their career and how many have changed jobs already. At Facebook, changing jobs in less than a year was a red flag for recruiters so maybe it means nothing but it's something I'm trained to notice. My working hypothesis is that Codemsith grads mislead smaller companies with the exaggerated resume and get hired as experienced engineers at small companies that don't do their homework and a number don't make it a year when they are found to be less experienced than expected. I have a busy day job but we'll see when I get there time to process the data.
u/endlightend wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Do you do this for Codesmith specifically out of curiosity or do you follow other bootcamp grads too?
u/michaelnovatireplied·★ FEATURED
About two years ago I didn't really follow any bootcamps except Lambda School because I had a lot of info made available to me that was inconsistent with the public info but I was friendly with most of the bootcamp founders (and still am). Codesmith came on my radar after numerous people applied to my company and appeared to be 1+ YOE engineers until I interviewed them and found that their narratives fell apart and they were entry level engineers... and then I noticed OSLabs on two resumes and dug deeper... ever since then I have had so much info sent to me about how Codesmith works and OSLabs that I find it incredibly fascinating and have deep dived into it more than any other program and I understand it better than many employees who talk to me even do.
So yeah, not sure how to answer that but short answer - yes I follow other bootcamps and I connect on LinkedIn with bootcamp grads from a dozen programs. My company reaches out to bootcamp grads from over a dozen programs. And yet for some reason Codesmith grads are super unique (e.g. 'You know I went to Codesmith, we obviously don't need your company's services!') in how they perceive and respond only further adding to my intrigue!?!?
Anyways happy to answer more questions if you have them!