Launch School Placement Date - Q4 2024 Cohort, ~70% placed within six months - similar to previous cohort. Lower salaries at $100K mediums - indicating role shifts. Very strong results given the market but very small program so hard to extrapolate.

Launch School Placement Date - Q4 2024 Cohort, ~70% placed within six months - similar to previous cohort. Lower salaries at $100K mediums - indicating role shifts. Very strong results given the market but very small program so hard to extrapolate. Results [https://www.reddit.com/r/launchschool/comments/1kzrkyv/cohort\_2405\_salary\_outcomes\_6months/](https://www.reddit.com/r/launchschool/comments/1kzrkyv/cohort_2405_salary_outcomes_6months/) 2024-2025 saw major changes to top bootcamps. Codesmith - arguably the top program alongside Launch Schoo - is down about 80% of it's staff and the founder seems to be moving on to writing a book about AI Ethics and doing a new Front End Masters course while the remaining Codesmith students are taught by recent graduate 'lead instructors' with no SWE experience that their website calls 'engineering industry experts' - most recent 6 month placement was around 40% and that was counting a ton of people who ghosted and were counted because of their LinkedIn pages. Hack Reactor after many changes is an unrecognizable version of it's former self. App Academy paused SWE. Turing shut down. Launch Academy paused. Rithm shut down. And in all of that - Launch School has been chugging along. It used to have a 100% placement rate so 70% is a significant decline, but in a a world where other programs are struggling to have relevance, Launch School is still getting by. The caveats are that there are very few people - 16 enrolled per cohort and about 4 cohorts a year. You have to core for months - a year before being ready to join the Capstone. They are also noting declines in salary - people aren't taking the canonical solid SWE jobs but are taking a wider range of quality of roles and jobs at less strong companies. But a $100K job is still a $100K job, and you'll be good down the road still. You can see the full results in the link.

That's good to know that the other cohort sizes because in 2024 they seemed a little on the smaller side so maybe they're picking up some people who had previously gone to other programs that shut down. I'm confident their numbers are entirely real, but the reason they're good is because people have to be in court for about a year and by the time they're done core they know that the launch school communities like really perfect for them it's before choosing to do Capstone and I think that's one of strong reasons for their success. they don't get people who saw like an ad in a discount code who sign up without fully understanding what they're getting into.

The data above says that at a specific program that has a very high entry bar where you have to pay a couple thousand dollars in a year to get into had a placement rate where 11 people got jobs.

All of your comments are trolling comments that Reddit keeps flagging. Do you have any thing useful to add to the conversation? I'm all ears to talk about things for real.

Their standalone AI course is absolutely awful for $4600. It's 4 weeks, 5 lectures, and a couple of projects. Which is like $1000 a week for one class per week and there is no outcome or job or any goal other than to learn. The topics are already outdated, like a whole lecture on RAG. You are paying about $1000 to learn about RAG when you can spend $0 to learn from AI itself about RAG. The lectures were curriculum was written by someone who has never worked as a SWE or in AI (but they throw the names of others who worked on their failed Data Science program that has nothing to do with the new gen AI program in reality). The people teaching out have little (0 to 3 years) professional experience as SWEs so I don't see why they charge so much. It should be like a $500 course max.

 \*Actual photo of you\*

No, I'm shorter, fatter and balder than that person.

The $895 was meant for people that did the new SWE immersive because it's the same as the old + the 4/5 AI lectures now. So the $895 would be for the Saturday discussions I guess? I'm not super sure but I get the vibe they are trying to leave the door open for heavily discounted alumni rate because they originally said loud and clear that Codesmith will give you everything you need to be hired for LIFE and by backtracking on that to extract money from alumni, it's a bad look, so maybe if you watch the 5 free alumni lectures you can ask them to qualify for the $895. I don't want rub salt in a wound, but an alumni could organize their own thing, like slap a calendar invite on your calendar to all watch a lecture recording every week and then discuss it with each other, and then do a project together. You'll get 85% of the value for free.

A lot of people live in their own realities and when things don't line up with their reality, instead of trying to understand things from different perspectives, they just refuse to acknowledge things outside of their view and resort name calling, accusations and blaming and shaming because they can't actually make any valid arguments. Often stems from a lack of self-confidence where admitting you're wrong about something that doesn't really matter is so detrimental that people do these things to avoid doing it. they would rather pat themselves on the back for attacking a villain then dealing with reality.