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Is TripleTen a scam?

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u/r3tribut3 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

Originally, I was going to choose Codesmith since that's what a lot of engineers recommended. I took the advanced JavaScript course for two weeks to see if I liked their teaching style. In the end, I went with TripleTen instead because I prefer learning at my own pace but still w

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
there's a lot in this comment that I think would be relevant at the top level too and really changes my perception. 1. the fact that you got or most of it covered from work is really relevant because it kind of changes the decision. I'm not making a comment on if something is a scam or not. I try to make comments on very specific aspects and not the overall program. generally, if a program encourages you to get your work to reimburse training, then usually the work doesn't really care that much what you're doing and the quality can be lower without impacting as much because you're not as angry or upset because your company paid for most of it and your company doesn't really care because they just have these big pools of money to allocate to these programs. 2. If you're working as a day job then I think it's very hard to do codesmith even part time. they have examples of people that do it, but personally I just think it's like incredibly hard because for 9 months straight you're basically working 9:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. every single day I think it's even longer now. maybe it's almost a year cuz they added 2 weeks of generative AI stuff that probably turns into like a month or two extra on part-time. 3. So different programs have scholarships for people of different backgrounds, but they are framed as scholarships and if they're charging people differently just because of their gender, that's discriminatory so do you have more details on that? or maybe like clarify your comment because otherwise it could sound like you're saying that they're doing something discriminatory and they might not want you to say that if they aren't actually doing something discriminatory.

u/r3tribut3 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

1. Originally, I wasn’t planning on asking my company for reimbursement because I didn’t expect them to have the budget for it. But to my surprise, they offered, which was really nice of them. I didn’t want to be under a financial burden from spending close to $20k. 2. I agree.

u/michaelnovati replied ·
yeah I mean this industry isn't really regulated so it's kind of hard for number three to show one way or the other. but triple ten does seem to have pretty legitimate and legally carefully crafted marketing. so I would assume that they have some kind of like legal process here but 50% off for identifying with a certain gender is pretty crazy. I know in general that triple ten forked off of the Russian search company Yandex this year to become its own standalone entity. but at the same time it doesn't have the financial backing from them anymore. so I could see them trying to be more creative with discounts to try to get the enrollment that they need. they definitely spend a lot of money on marketing and YouTube sponsorships and such as well.

u/Gassy_Gator wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

I’m a current student and it’s not a “scam” they really do teach you and the help is good. I’ve learned a lot I agreed to an income share agreement with haste and in the long run I’m going to be paying just over $24,000. If I don’t get a job within 6 months after graduation I don

u/michaelnovati replied ·
If you get refunded, so they refund the interest or just the base? If you pay $11K via a loan and paid $18K with interest, and don't get a job, and get refunded $11K? or $18K?

u/Gassy_Gator wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

From my understanding the interest doesn’t start accumulating until 6 months after graduation at that point if I don’t get a job the school will pay/refund the tuition so I wouldn’t have to pay anything. I read the terms multiple times and I’m almost certain that’s what it says.

u/michaelnovati replied ·
Do you know or did you ask them what percentage of STUDENTS (not graduates) end up getting refunded (not how many place or how many don't, but how many explicitly get refunded)? Someone I was talking to said that the sprints get a lot harder after the period of time you can leave with a partial refund, and they thought it was very hard to even graduate and people can end up in it for a very long time, neither withdrawing or graduating. But that was just one opinion. And I want to know more!

u/Gassy_Gator wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

It definitely does get a lot harder. I’ve been in tutoring sessions with students ahead of me and it seems extremely complex but to answer your question I have no idea how many have been refunded. I know for me my guidance counselor is adjusting my graduation date and thus my loa

u/michaelnovati replied ·
yeah the one thing I like about the program is it is a bit more a self-paced because everyone takes a different amount of time to learn the materials. the downside is there's less pressure or momentum to get you to finish in a reasonable amount of time. so it works really well. if you have a flexible time frame and are committed to never giving up and it works less well if you are not in it for the right reasons or give up earlier.