u/michaelnovati replied ·
Trying to fill in a gap, was your job a senior job and did you exaggerate your resume to get it? and then got laid off because you didn't perform at that bar?
Or was the layoff unrelated and just bad luck/timing?
I went to codesmith got a job and then got laid off
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u/HorrorEquivalent3261 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Senior dev job, they started to down level Example: senior lead is now senior dev, same org, same company, just the employee came back after a start up 2 years ago
u/michaelnovati replied · DELETED · archived copy
Did you present yourself as more experienced than you were and did Codesmith support that?
u/Potatoupe wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
if you have relevant skills in backend for 4 years I don't think it's bad to try for senior roles in that. What made you move to frontend?
u/michaelnovati replied · DELETED · archived copy ★ FEATURED
Yeah there seems to be a lot of off advice here. Both going for frontend roles if you have backend experience and telling people to go to senior roles they are not qualified for.
The latter I've talked about for a while, they are sending lemmings off a cliff with that advice and I believe it's impacted their enrollment and morale.
u/sheriffderek wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
It’s possible to sneak into “senior” (by name) roles for a small percentage of people with _just the right_ backgrounds. A few of my students already had very solid careers with high salaries and transitioned to UI or UX senior roles, by that was a lot of hard work (and time) and
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
The titles are irrelevant, the problem happens when people are entering roles that the company expects you to have experience for and the lack of experience causes performance issues against those expectations.
Whether the candidate misrepresented themselves or the company took a chance on you because of potential, it's absolutely absurd that Codesmith suggests people with no experience aim for senior roles. They should present it as an option, but not an expectation that you should be getting a role requiring experience.
u/sheriffderek wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
I wont falt people for "#huslting" (even though I think it's a really bad strategy) ... and I get why they can't really respond (since it's a kinda internal hypefest...) *but*... I 100% agree with you. "Senior" isn't a salary range... it's a responsibility level. (and I say th
u/michaelnovati replied ·
+1 If you have like a ton of potential, the advice should be to get an entry level role at a company where you'll have a very fast career trajectory and get promoted as soon as possible.
u/HorrorEquivalent3261 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Senior dev job, they started to down level Example: senior lead is now senior dev, same org, same company, just the employee came back after a start up 2 years ago
u/michaelnovati replied · DELETED · archived copy
People are giving you a lot of flack because of the adjacent experience. do you want to elaborate on if it was programming or just an adjacent experience or how relevant it was?