u/KCarried wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
A lot of codesmith grads misrepresent their bootcamp projects as real companies, work experience, and/or open source projects. Here’s a post from a graduate about their experience: https://www.reddit.com/r/codingbootcamp/comments/17yrzw4/do_not_go_to_codesmith/
u/michaelnovatireplied·· edited
OP first blocked me so I couldn't reply on this, then got permanently suspended - possibly part of Codesmith promotional accounts that they use to astroturf Reddit.
u/Repulsive-Hall-9636 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Thanks for sending me these!
Gotta say though, the fact that the most relevant one (second) had so many responses from Codesmith grads denying what OP was saying, to the point OP updated it and basically backed off what he originally wrote, kinda made his point redundant.
The
u/michaelnovatireplied·· edited★ FEATURED
I'm that mod and I'll I'm going to say is you are "permanently suspended" and I highly suspect your account was one of the many astroturfing Reddit for Codesmith, adding evidence to my point.
My company doesn't do anything related to coding bootcamps and I write bad stuff about people being dishonest, sketchy, and lacking integrity.
u/Repulsive-Hall-9636 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
What about this guy then? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsKLn1nQWVY&t=103s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsKLn1nQWVY&t=103s)
u/michaelnovatireplied·
Video Unavailable. But I think the person you are referring to had other jobs - his LinkedIn has a number of overlapping jobs and I'm not exactly sure what he did, but he did something for five years and THEN got hired at NVIDIA, which seems like a very reasonable path.
u/Repulsive-Hall-9636 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Okay, so this guy for example. No shade to him, but it says here he got a Snr SWE job on Capital One's ML team straight out of Codesmith?! And that others from Codesmith joined recently as seniors
[https://www.codesmith.io/blog/from-orchestra-conductor-to-senior-software-enginee
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1. This person was the equivalent of a top tier low mid-level/high entry level and while he said he had zero experience in that blog post, his LinkedIn says he had a year of "freelancing" experience, so he likely lied about his YOE to get the mid-level job and then performed well to get the senior job.
2. Codesmith alumni (outside of Codesmith itself) cheat on Cap1 interviews by sharing all of the questions they ask and having currently employees feed answers to people for those questions.
If he got promoted relatively quickly maybe he deserved the job! But to get the job it's more likely he "hustled" a lot to get it. Many people lie on resumes and cheat on interviews so this isn't a Codesmith thing, but since Codesmith denies any kind of supporting of cheating and lying, they can't get credit for helping with that piece, nor can they take credit for how smart this guy is inherently. So maybe they can take some credit for him being promoted quickly?
u/Repulsive-Hall-9636 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Exactly what I was thinking. Then again I've been searching all day and have found Codesmith grads that landed pretty great jobs after finishing.
Didi you do a bootcamp or CS degree?
u/michaelnovatireplied·
How did you find those grads exactly? I pulled a list of 2024 grads and the majority don't appear to have jobs at all from my initial examination.
u/Repulsive-Hall-9636 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Well...here I am
u/michaelnovatireplied·
Temporarily suspended then?
u/Repulsive-Hall-9636 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
"he did something for five years" .....he got a job at Virgin Hyperloop out of Codesmith, if you're looking at the same LinkedIn as me. That's very impressive imo
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Yes, I said "did something" because their LinkedIn has two other SWE jobs during the time he was at Hyperloop and one Data Scientist job that overlaps that timeframe as well.
He also says he was driving for Uber but his LinkedIn he was an "analyst" at Uber for 3 years.
Like all in all this is a good path but there seems to be a heck of a lot more to this story than he said in the video.
Which is what I see very commonly with Codesmith grads. Their stories on these blogs and videos don't match what these people say on paper.
Same with the Capital One one you are sharing. Great outcome but something in the story is not adding up.
I feel like everyone at Codesmith cares more about making up a story that looks like Codesmith helped these people get mid level and senior level jobs instead of acknowledging the reality of how it happens when it does happen.
u/Repulsive-Hall-9636 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
I'm not permanently suspended....I think you must be paranoid