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Asking for Bootcamp Advice in 2025 · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · · edited ★ FEATURED
I would do a masters over any bootcamp. Or consider Launch School. Codesmith and Merit America are entirely different options with no similarities so I would also spend more time trying to understand deeply how these things work if you don't cross them off entirely. So my personal opinion is to avoid Codesmith at all costs. You can read my history and I'm intimately familiar with their workings for years. I used to recommend people go there all the way up until they had about 50% layoffs and in Feb 2024 shrunk about 75% in their offerings. I was curious then and paused recommendations to see how they adjusted. Unfortunately they didn't adjust well and instead of just removing my recommendation I changed it to actively recommend not going in fall 2024 The short reason is that they are imploding in my opinion. They have a skeleton crew of full time staff left. All of their full time i…

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Avoid Springboard Bootcamps - Insights from a Mentor · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Yeah nothing negative invalidates individual experience - good and bad. But far too many people are looking for confirmation bias and latch onto an individual success story as justification to do a bootcamp they want to go to. Bootcamps prey on this, because as you said, you referred someone because it worked for you, and this is a strong strategy. It's why every bootcamp asks for referrals for friends. But you have to zoom out and look at the market right now: 1. Market disappeared for bootcamp grads 2. Failing bootcamps are cutting back and providing worse services (be in Springboard or even a top three like Codesmith and Rithm (shut down). 3. Almost everything about the programs are equal or worse ( when the students need BETTER support. 4. They don't have the cash to invest in making things better so anything marketed to you as a major change is smoke and mirrors - the "change" wa…

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Hope for bootcamp grads · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
1. I'm a mod of this sub (and I was made a mod by people I don't know) 2. My company requires several years of work experience as a SWE, we don't accept new bootcamp grads or CS grads struggling to get jobs. 3. I make it clear when I'm commenting on behalf of the company (which is rare) and I make it clear when I'm commenting personally if there is some kind of confusion or questioning. I take your feedback that it can be more clear because it's important to know who you are talking to. I'm completely not-anonymous to help people judge who I am - this sub has a track record of people using anonymous new accounts to promote bootcamps with attempts to produce "organic content" that is super sketchy. Better to be able to judge than rely on new accounts you have no idea who they are. My entire life mission is about supporting people bettering themselves. I'm trying to HELP people. A f…

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LinkedIn Post - Bootcamps vs. CS Degrees · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
I'll try to summarize haha: 1. I used to be on them like anything else, pros and cons, and I recommended people go there with Rithm and Launch School. I was very consistently hard on three things: \- marketing mid level and senior placements for people with zero experience (which I felt was wrong) \- marketing their OSP projects as 'equivalent of months of full time SWE work' when they were full of junior problems and most people worked on them for 3-4 weeks \- their instructors all went to codesmith itself and were promoted up the tree in a pyramid shape so they don't have SWE experience 2. Codesmith didn't see things the same way and framed me as a villain - which I completely ignored and kept doing my thing as a public service to offer my opinions through my lens 3. Throughout that time, former staff, current staff, students, etc... have proactively contacted me and told me ab…

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From behind the scenes at Codesmith: Leadership changes and what’s next · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · · edited ★ FEATURED
Do you mind giving her the documented evidence of Codesmith confirming they paid a guy on Upwork to post stuff on Reddit and then that same person posted shit about me and tried to get me banned? Do you want the messages Codesmith posted to their CSX community of 20K people lying to them that I was on Slack with multiple aliases contacting people to try to get them to go to Formation - which never happened. Those messages are libelous and I asked Codesmith to apologize which they declined to. I'm furious at Codesmith and I'm justified in being angry and upset about it and I'm playing by the rules of the game in expressing my anger.

Codesmith Grads - Stop lying on your background checks. Your OSP is not 'employment history'. I've received a number of couple of people having trouble with background checks because they put their project as 'work experience'. STOP. · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · DELETED · archived copy ★ FEATURED
I didn't say anything about you. I was responding to that person about the typical grad behavior for why many Codesmith grads defend this behavior. I had a rant that I deleted because it was not coherent. But time will tell and the truth is catching up with them. Most people have already figured it out and apparently many remaining staff are one foot out the door. Maybe the CEO steps down and Alina takes over and maybe brings in some funding to buy out the company for cheap and they try to build something new and sell it off for a profit later on in a consolidation of remaining bootcamp brands? Kind of like what happened at App Academy. The founder finally left, the new CEO replaced everything with he own AI platform. They stopped doing SWE and kind of floating around as a completely different version of the program before. Codesmith will probably follow that path and they really sh…

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Codesmith Grads - Stop lying on your background checks. Your OSP is not 'employment history'. I've received a number of couple of people having trouble with background checks because they put their project as 'work experience'. STOP. · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · DELETED · archived copy ★ FEATURED
A good question is to ask why I'm like this. Seek first to understand, then be understood is what Codesmith told their staff, and they should action it. I offered to help Codesmith and some ideas to work with them. Their leaders didn't want to. Alina confirmed to me that Codesmith paid some guy to post on Reddit and I gave her evidence that the same guy lied and tried to get me banned and that the mysterious missing founder of the Codesmith subreddit was involved with this scheme. I offered to apologize publicly for any individual person who felt attacked by my commentary if they publicly apologizing for making shit up about me and sending it out to their community. They declined to apologize. Then I open up LinkedIn and see all kinds of fake made up stories that seem to rewrite history and promote Codesmith. I hear about more and more layoffs even as of a month ago. I hear about…

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Codesmith Grads - Stop lying on your background checks. Your OSP is not 'employment history'. I've received a number of couple of people having trouble with background checks because they put their project as 'work experience'. STOP. · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · DELETED · archived copy ★ FEATURED
I commented on a similar comment but the person deleted their comment so here is my thoughts: Yeah they do and I do not agree with it and would debate him on it BUT he is transparent about it, and quite blunt. He says stuff up to fake it and that you will be exposed like 9 out of 10 times and it just has to work once. I really don't agree but I respect that he's clear on it. Codesmith has a giant facade that pretends to teach people and brainwashes them to think that it was Codesmith that did it. Look the other way and blame students for doing it. If Codesmith told people hey the job market is not fair so you have to exaggerate your experience to get through. You deserve the job and you pass the interviews so this is a means to end.

Numerous new warning flags at Codesmith. Concerned they are grasping at straws (Personal Opinion) · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · DELETED · archived copy ★ FEATURED
I'm extremely pissed off at your bullshit response Codesmith. It's now 10 months later and things are worse then even and everything I said was correct. Everything you wrote (your post was removed by Reddit) was false bull shit you made up to manipulate people when you knew how bad things were. Things did not get better. The 2025 "recruitment rush" never happened. Another 50% of your staff was laid off and you have hardly anyone left. Your unethical behavior and marketing is catching up with you and I hope everyone sees it.

Very interested in Launch School capstone, but have questions. · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Other programs are bad too but Codesmith confirmed to me that they paid some guy on Upwork. And that person coincidentally (Codesmith claims that no one currently employed there asked them to) posted garbage about me and tried to get me banned from Reddit. I asked them to apologize and they declined so any company that behaves like this deserves to be called out in my opinion. I'm sure others do it to but I can prove this about Codesmith and I'm not going to drop it, no.

BREAKING NEWS: Codesmith 2023 official outcomes published: CANNOT BE WORSE - placement rate crashed from 70% to 29%. Enrollment also tanked over 50%. The software engineering bootcamp era is over. · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
I've been trying to talk to them privately but it's too hard. Too many lies and I can't trust anyone there. I talked to them in good faith and they did nothing. I tried to extend the smallest olive brand and they did nothing. They told me they care about fixing the problems I talk about but I think the only thing they care about is keeping me quiet. No changes except half of the staff left since I stsrted talking to them. They have a rotten seed there and until the seed is removed nothing will ever change.

BREAKING NEWS: Codesmith 2023 official outcomes published: CANNOT BE WORSE - placement rate crashed from 70% to 29%. Enrollment also tanked over 50%. The software engineering bootcamp era is over. · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
I dont think this tone is great but it's worse than that. First, the stats were wrong because they only included people who responded to reach out and submitted salary information at first. The "adjusted numbers" included all the people who never responded but appeared to have jobs somewhere on LinkedIn and count as placements who "did not respond" boosting the rate to 42%. But the reason it is worse is because the newest numbers don't make any sense. They published unofficial 12 months numbers but the 2022 numbers are copy paste from the 6 months report so the drop of 2023 12 month from 2022 six months doesn't look as bad. On top of that, they had to check everyone's LinkedIn to count them as a placement so they are fully aware that all those grads are exaggerating and lying about their experience. Finally, I proved they paid someone to post on Reddit - a person who posted bullshit…

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👋 AMA: I’m Michael - ex-Meta Principal Engineer + #1 code committer, now co-founder at Formation.dev + interview expert. 📌🎈💥 AI popped the Bootcamp & LeetCode bubbles. Ask me anything about how tech careers have changed in 2025, how to stand out, and what still gets you hired. No 🍬🧥. No 🐂💩 · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Hi 👋, * 3 years of experience as a SWE should line you up nicely for an E4 Mid Level Meta SWE role. You can also consider their adjacent roles like Partner Engineer and Business Engineer if you get rejected from the normal E4 "Product Engineer", "Infrastructure Engineer" roles. * There is absolutely a bias against bootcamp grads - I've seen it bluntly from close friends who are recruiters. And the reason is because bootcamp grads OVERALL don't perform as well on the job because they are behind in experience. It's not personal and not about potential. * So I would probably exclude them and focus on your current job, the most important things are * **1. SHOW CAREER PROGRESSION (if you got promoted, don't just list you highest title, but show the dates and show you progressed quickly up the later)** * **2. IDEALY DON'T JOB HOP - staying at the same company and progressing is much better…

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👋 AMA: I’m Michael - ex-Meta Principal Engineer + #1 code committer, now co-founder at Formation.dev + interview expert. 📌🎈💥 AI popped the Bootcamp & LeetCode bubbles. Ask me anything about how tech careers have changed in 2025, how to stand out, and what still gets you hired. No 🍬🧥. No 🐂💩 · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · · edited ★ FEATURED
Hi, Mistakes people make: * Jumping around too much based on what they read online. i.e. jumping from certifications -> projects -> open source -> courses. * Rushing through things thinking they understand it. I find people have to review the same concept a number of times patiently over time before it sticks and that's GOOD. * Putting too much work into looking superficially good on paper over the substance of what you do (i.e. building a portfolio you think will look good) * Lying on resumes to get the first job How to avoid? * Focus - do a breadth first search to find what path is likely to be good for you (i.e. certifications -> consulting, or open source -> open source companies, or leetcode/fundamentals focused -> top tier company), and then stick to it to the end. If you were wrong, you'll struggle, but you have a higher chance of making it over someone who does 25% of every…

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👋 AMA: I’m Michael - ex-Meta Principal Engineer + #1 code committer, now co-founder at Formation.dev + interview expert. 📌🎈💥 AI popped the Bootcamp & LeetCode bubbles. Ask me anything about how tech careers have changed in 2025, how to stand out, and what still gets you hired. No 🍬🧥. No 🐂💩 · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati posted · · edited ★ FEATURED
👋 AMA: I’m Michael - ex-Meta Principal Engineer + #1 code committer, now co-founder at Formation.dev + interview expert. 📌🎈💥 AI popped the Bootcamp & LeetCode bubbles. Ask me anything about how tech careers have changed in 2025, how to stand out, and what still gets you hired. No 🍬🧥. No 🐂💩 # TUESDAY APRIL 15th, 10AM PT/1PM ET: ADD QUESTIONS ANYTIME Hey everyone, I'm Michael Novati - a friendly moderator of the sub, former Principal Engineer and the #1 code committer at Meta, and now co-founder and lead engineer at Formation.dev. I've done hundreds of technical interviews at Meta, built some big stuff, and even had an industry archetype called "Coding Machine" modeled after my work. Here's the blunt truth: The hiring landscape in tech has drastically shifted in 2025. The bootcamp-to-job pipeline and the LeetCode grind have both been heavily disrupted by AI. These changes broke…

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Should I believe bootcamps like Codesmith who still claim grads land mid or senior SWE roles in today’s market · r/cscareers

u/michaelnovati replied · · edited ★ FEATURED
I'm that mod and I'll I'm going to say is you are "permanently suspended" and I highly suspect your account was one of the many astroturfing Reddit for Codesmith, adding evidence to my point. My company doesn't do anything related to coding bootcamps and I write bad stuff about people being dishonest, sketchy, and lacking integrity.

Recruiter accidently emailed me her secret internal selection guidelines 👀 · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · · edited ★ FEATURED
We have people who have been with us for a long time and our bar used to be any SWE work experience in 2019 to 2022, then was 1+ year 2023 -> and then 2+ years in 2024. I was replying to a comment about the current state of Formation that someone was criticizing. There can be edge case people people from a long time ago that place that have less experience and we also have a handful of people we accept now with less than 2+ years of experience. You're right I shouldn't say "only take". We only market to and and only consider people with 2+ years since 2024 and reject others, and we have exceptions and edge case for one off reasons who come back and make a case or explain their circumstances on a call. We also have partnerships with Netflix and Waymo where we prepare interns for their corresponding interviews. And those people are not paying $2500 a month, are not paying anything, and…

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5 months post CodeSmith, only 1 person got hired · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · · edited ★ FEATURED
I have dozens of screenshots and PDFs,.HTMl logs etc...but I don't have time to bundle it up, and I would also prefer discussing it with their team privately first so they can respond. If they apologized and assured me it would never happen again I might just drop it. The person's Reddit account was permanently suspended along with dozens of other accounts and a number of official Codesmith accounts as well. When all of the accounts were suspended I also noticed a bunch of accounts that have been harassing me for a year now for suspended too and since then I have had relatively little harassment on here. I would love to publish a case study some time because the behavior is insane and hard to tell at first! But revelaing this might also help the bad guys get away with it by understanding the sophistacted techniques I used :( The fake accounts would warm up by posting and commenting…

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CodeSmith for CS University Graduates · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
How about all of the times I said specific people should go to Codesmith in the past? Your read my 2000+ comments on Reddit? Summary: I temporarily removed that recommendation in Feb 2024 when they laid off about half the staff and shrunk 2/3 in offerings. And then permanently maintained that when most of the promised changes in Feb 2024 never materialized the way I hoped they would, and outcomes tanked. That's rational no? If a program has an 80% placement rate that tanks to 40% (with the majority of the 40% ghosting and non responsive according to their report - whereas when it was 80% the majority were engaged) and keeps telling you everything is fine and changes the goal posts they are measured by, isn't that an insane red flag to reconsider? Or no? Clearly SOME people are getting placed and it's very much possible that this person will get placed too... but I would argue this pe…

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BREAKING NEWS: Codesmith 2023 official outcomes published: CANNOT BE WORSE - placement rate crashed from 70% to 29%. Enrollment also tanked over 50%. The software engineering bootcamp era is over. · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Funny that I don't have any of these problems until I point out anything critical about Codesmith's and then these random accounts seem to come out of the woodwork. Reddit permanently suspended dozens of them already for creating a bunch of fake comments, threads and votes and all kinds of messed up stuff exclusively on Codesmith content and two claiming to represent Codesmith officialy. Isn't it more weird to have a fake AMA where 1/3 of the comments are fake accounts having fake conversations? That's not just one clown, it's a whole circus! All I have is integrity and even though Reddit can't catch all this in real time, they eventually do. That's why those AMAs have so many deleted and suspended accounts on them when you go back 3 months later.

BREAKING NEWS: Codesmith 2023 official outcomes published: CANNOT BE WORSE - placement rate crashed from 70% to 29%. Enrollment also tanked over 50%. The software engineering bootcamp era is over. · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
based on how many comments you have that have been removed for harassment and trolling, I mean I guess that you're not actually reading anything or thinking about things like an intelligent person would process them and just attacking. I very clearly said you have to have two plus years of experience right now. at least to benefit from what we do and it's been like that for over a year now and if you just graduated from a cs degree we would not accept you.

Recent bootcamp graduates? What was it like? Did you get a job? · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Can you clarify if you are saying H2 2022 outcomes did not tank from H1 2022 outcomes? Because Codesmith published an official H1 2022 CIRR report and a FY 2022 CIRR reports it's simple math to deduce the H2 2022 outcomes and they decreased no? Are you saying I'm wrong and need to correct that and made a mistake? Showing a large increase in people ghosting post placement for H2 who were confirmed via LinkedIn as appearing to get a job and their salaries weren't included? Anyways, in a market where App Academy has paused, Turing plans on shutting down in 2025, Launch Academy paused, BloomTech paused, Launch School has lower enrollment but surviving and discussing its challenges openly, Code Up shut down, Epicodus shut down, Hack Reactor has massive layoffs and is unrecognizable. Codesmith is the only one that keeps delusionally telling people everything is okay and people aren't fall…

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Cost/Benefit Analysis: Free Certificate through University or Accredited Bootcamp with ISA? · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Are the Codesmith announcements: 1. people's promotions and 2nd or 3rd jobs 2. people reporting jobs several months after they placed 3. people job hunting for around a year or more The reason I ask is that people have pointed out that Codesmith recently started adding alumnis new jobs to those announcements and intermixing them with new placements. I do agree with the "Codesmith Method" of applying for jobs though. I also talked to a number of grads about it. Based on their sentiment I think there is a reason people have removed themselves from the Alumni List because they were being inundated with Codesmith grads who have zero experience. One person told me they removed themselves because they felt so awkward, like people attending timeshare meetings and feeling they have to listen to this embellished pitch and just want to get the heck out.

My Final Review Of Formationdev · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
I can reply with my thoughts, thanks for sharing yours as well. We aren't a perfect program and because of the adaptive nature, no two people will have the same experience, so we rely on critical feedback to make improvements. Overall, we move absurdly fast, we make changes very fast, and we try to incorporate feedback fast. We aim to fix bugs within minutes or hours. We aim to acknowledge feedback within minutes or hours. And we discuss a lot of feedback internally for how we can incorporate it. 1. I won't comment on the cost. Formation isn't cheap by any means, but the average placed Fellow increases their first year total compensation by an average $127K right now, so it's extremely worth it for them. If you struggle to get a job and on the job hunt much longer than expected - we don't go anywhere and we still by you, but I very much understand that the cost could be weighing on you…

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COMMENTARY/UPDATE: Codesmith updated their accepted stats today, 168 offers accepted between March and August 2024 VS 53 in March and April alone. Average base salary in those ranges down to $117K from $119K. · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Hey, I personally feel like the conflict, if any, would be that people who come here and appreciate my advice, do whatever they do (bootcamp, or CS degree or whatver), then think of Formation in a **few years** and consider it. I tried to pull up data on where people come from and Reddit as a whole is a fairly small source, and we don't have data more granular - but anecdotally a lot come from Leetcode sub where I give Meta interview advice. Now we're only 5 years old, so maybe in a couple years tons of people will come pouring in to Formation because of my involvement in this sub. It's also not a corporate strategy and I'm here personally... my team would prefer if I post more on LinkedIn. But I'm very open to talking about this and I appreciate the challenge. In 2024, we're not talking people without 2+ years of experience. If you don't believe me, try applying and see for yourself.…

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Censored by Codesmith · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
I think they are confusing other people's behavior with mine. I don't think I disrupted any events intentionally and the one time they didn't like my comment I was banned and left. Repeated disruptions? I think that's not accurate. If you think that because Codesmith told you that and you have a negative impression of me, then those comments could be defamatory.

COMMENTARY/UPDATE: Codesmith updated their accepted stats today, 168 offers accepted between March and August 2024 VS 53 in March and April alone. Average base salary in those ranges down to $117K from $119K. · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Wow there is a lot of just like blatantly wrong facts there. There are a few people who don't like Codesmith and maybe that's them but you should make sure you have evidence of what you are saying because if you don't you are defaming me with facts that are wrong. 1. I have a written statement from the person in that blog post that another prospective Codemsith student told him about Formation, not a team member. 2. 2 year fixation on Codesmith, yes that's true. 3. I mention Codemsith a lot because there are these extremely long threads of back and forth with these anonymous Codesmith people who are mostly suspended from Reddit now. My proactive commentary leans Codesmith but is much broader. 4. I never hired a private investigator or anyone to look into Codesmith. That is weird and not me. 5. I have two main spreadsheets that I created. One for OSP tracking, one for Alumni. I hav…

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A Message To The Moderator Of This Subreddit · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
I dispute almost all of those "facts", but I don't care personally if they get posted and I need to evaluate everything super fairly and consistently as a mod or I don't deserve the position. Personal opinion rant: Codesmith has dug a really deep whole for themselves with their own community and it's entirely on them. The more they go after me with statements I can prove are false, the deeper the hole. The more their placements are terrible and they gaslight alumni, the deeper the hole. The more they post in their slack about me (who RECOMMENDED PEOPLE IN 1-1 CHATS GO TO CODESMITH UNTIL THEIR RECENT LAYOFF ROUND), the deeper the hole. When an alumni, who I recommended go to Codesmith, actually went, and then is pissed off because they didn't feel like they liked it, and that alumni sees what Codesmith is saying about me to their alumni in slack, that absolutely **DESTROYS** their credi…

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Why is Formation.dev Being Recommended in Codesmith's Slack? · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
I'm happy to answer this factually on the record, I don't know where this is coming from but keep asking and I'll keep giving the answers. I would like to know more specific examples of this to clarify because I don't know what you are talking about from your post. 1. I was in Codesmith's CSX Slack until I was banned and I have respected that ban since and not stepped foot in it and have not stepped foot in a Codesmith event since. 2. I have never messaged, promoted, or mentioned Formation to my recollection in CSX Slack ever. My interactions that I recall were limited to: a) Messaging one or two OSP groups that their projects were leaking passwords publicly b) Answered a couple of technical questions, like 5 maybe? c) Helping the Codesmith Team understand what happened when a different Codesmith posted job postings improperly affiliated with Codesmith LLC and they thought it was…

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Numerous new warning flags at Codesmith. Concerned they are grasping at straws (Personal Opinion) · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
The log shows that Reddit flagged it, like it does a bunch of posts for which I am not notified of, and I don't review them in real time, and check periodically. The log shows I removed it a midnight Saturday night, when I reviewed the queues and it was at that point a duplicate of a post already in the sub. I'm not sure why it showed up in the queue again today, where the log shows I removed it again and tried to explain that it was a duplicate with a comment this time so it would be clearer.

Numerous new warning flags at Codesmith. Concerned they are grasping at straws (Personal Opinion) · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Your post was blocked by Reddit's filters not by a moderator. That's what the moderator log says. This happens to 3 to 10 posts a day and is a common occurrence and I was just clearing out the log and filtering duplicates. If someone else didn't share your post already, I would have overridden and approved it because it's now irrelevant as a duplicate.

Exclusive ex-Meta Engineering poll results: Almost no one is considering AI skills when hiring software engineers at their companies! Bootcamps pivoting to AI might be marketing a fictional gold rush so that they can sell you an expensive shovel that you don't need right now. · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati posted · · edited ★ FEATURED
Exclusive ex-Meta Engineering poll results: Almost no one is considering AI skills when hiring software engineers at their companies! Bootcamps pivoting to AI might be marketing a fictional gold rush so that they can sell you an expensive shovel that you don't need right now. DISCLAIMER: I'm a moderator of the sub and co-founder of a mentorship program for experienced SWEs (2+ YOE currently) to help them prepare for interviews. I don't believe I have any conflicts of interest but I am bias by the fact that my corner of the market is top tier big tech (including top tier small tech startups) and not the long tail of companies hiring engineers right now. The below analysis is my personal interpretation of the poll and reflects my personal opinions and insights on the raw numbers presented. Note: I might update poll numbers as more votes come in. I ran a poll with a group a few thousand…

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Navigating the Debate: Bootcamps, Criticism, and Personal Responsibility · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
1. Personal income means I haven't made a penny in any way from Formation to date, no secondary sales, no profit sharing, no income, no dividend, big fat $0. I own a large amount of shares in it, and if it sold some day or IPOd I would make money, but I do not make money from any of the operations. 2. That's fair our perceive my message that way. Like I said it's rare, and I connect to a ton of people just to learn more about them and network like anyone else. I don't recall pushing Formation on anyone in DMs. If you felt that way, that's fair feedback and I'm happy we talked about it. 3. There are other mods who can make decisions too, not just me! I haven't changed my behaviors since becoming a mod and I feel like I had a bit influence in here BEFORE then too. I appreciate a reminder to be aware of potential conflicts, this is the kind of fair discourse I want to have. I'm not trying…

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A honest nuanced opinion from a former Codesmith resident · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
My opinions is that they don't have anyone qualified to do it. I've reported a couple of major security problems in projects and no one seems to know what to do about it. For example, they checked in passwords for some 3rd party charity into source code. They then claimed they removed them from the repo. But alas, they didn't wipe the Git history and the passwords were still there in past commits. I pointed this out and was told I was wrong. I sent a link to the password directly, publicly on GitHub. It took far too much effort to explain this if I was talking to "mid level and senior engineers".

Navigating the Debate: Bootcamps, Criticism, and Personal Responsibility · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
I'm very fair about potential conflicts of interest. In my opinion, the conflict of interest is that about a third of people at Formation did botocamps in the past, so it's a good chunk of people who come to us in the future. And no, these aren't recent grads who can't get jobs but people with real work experience post bootcamp. I think I disclose.and manage this well and that it's a relativrly minor conflict. You know what's worse, anonymous accounts that could be run by bootcamps, manipulating discussions, and they shouldn't get a free pass just because they are anonymous. I shouldn't be villainized because I'm not anonymous. There is a happy medium. I don't own this sub and there are two other mods with different views. I was made a moderator after demonstrating for two years that I could manage my biases well and be fair and reasonable. Reddit permanently suspended about a dozen…

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Numerous new warning flags at Codesmith. Concerned they are grasping at straws (Personal Opinion) · r/codingbootcamp

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Numerous new warning flags at Codesmith. Concerned they are grasping at straws (Personal Opinion) Hi all, over the years I've developed a decent sense of the bootcamp industry from both the inside and the outside. For better or worse I have developed quite the insight into Codesmith. As one of the more controversial bootcamps (known in the boom-times for placing people with $137K median salaries who will fight to the bitten end for Codesmith, with others who aren't buying the 'Codesmith way' on the opposite side. "Polarizing" is a good word and the most innovating things in the world are polarizing. Over the past month I've been pretty quiet as a number of current and former students and staff have contacted me to chat about things and shared their views. I've organized this post into clear sections. Just a disclaimer, I'm a moderator of this sub and I supported my founder in startin…

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Current Codesmith residents/recent alumni: how has Codesmith delivered on promised improvements announced earlier this year? · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · DELETED · archived copy ★ FEATURED
Not publicly no, it's ethically wrong. I have been permanently banned from the Codesmith community for comments I made during a live session so I don't have avenues to responsibly report them. If you have some connections DM me. I need to discuss this stuff under an agreement because it's quite bad and they might have to legally notify all their people about one or more of these issues and I do not want to be involved and would rather not say anything at all honestly. My personal opinion is that I would not apply to anything at Codesmith with personally identifiable information.

🚨BREAKING NEWS: Course Report (bootcamp review website) acquired by Career.io - a job hunting platform and placement service. · r/codingbootcamp

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🚨BREAKING NEWS: Course Report (bootcamp review website) acquired by Career.io - a job hunting platform and placement service. Course Report is now owned by a job search conglomerate "Career.io" ending an era of it running as an independent bootcamp review website. I'm breaking this news and have not reached out yet to Course Report or Career.io for comment on this matter. DISCLOSURE: This post is my personal opinions and does not reflect the views of my company. I have not heard of Career.io before but their services to overlap with my company (specifically "interview prep services") so I might have a conflict of interest discussing them but as of this post I have no idea who they are an first heard of them in discovering they now own Course Report. # Background Story - How I discovered this, and the decline of Course Report: # 1. Codesmith Paying for Reviews I have been watching…

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Stuck between Rithm School or Codesmith · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
I can give my 2 cents. I know a lot about both programs. Very different options. I'm currently not recommending Codesmith (in my personal opinion/capacity - I need to mention this because it's in my company's interest for more people to go there) for three reasons, but you might feel differently: 1. They had large layoffs and promised coworking spaces, more curriculum and more three months ago and haven't done any of that, other than add 5 ML lectures (of which only 2 I think have been done) 2. They have a subreddit that is full of propaganda. I asked Reddit Corporate to look at our subreddit here and theres, and roughly 10 prominent accounts + 1 moderator were suspended from Reddit. I don't know if this was just one person or a coordinated effort but those people were working with Codesmith for "official AMAs" so whatever was going on it, Codesmith has visibility of this behavior jus…

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🏛️ Get to know a moderator: Michael Novati · r/codingbootcamp

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🏛️ Get to know a moderator: Michael Novati Hi all, I thought it might be a good idea to share more about myself as one of the three moderators on here and one of the most active members. It might be a surprise but I spend way more time writing code and helping Fellows at Formation than on Reddit. Here's my GitHub as evidence 😝 [https://github.com/mnovati](https://github.com/mnovati) I just wanted to share a little more about who I am and where I come from so you can work with me better in making this subreddit a better place. There's no advice or lessons in here, it's all biographical, but I'm happy to answer questions in the comments. # FOUR FUN FACTS 1. Meta created the "Coding Machine" archetype for me when promoting me to Principal Engineer. 2. I've met Taylor Swift. In fact I couldn't convince Mark Zuckerberg to meet her too at the time and played a prank on him by hanging…

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Censored by Codesmith · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Thought experiment. So if we take it as fact that the Codesmith mods are banning people from their sub that have never interacted there. So far this is just a conjecture from the OP that I haven't seen evidence for, so I talked to OP privately about it and I feel it's likely true, but with the door open for someone to disprove it. For example if the Codesmith mods came to me and said they have never banned someone who hasn't posted something violating their rules in their sub then I might have to take action if it at my discretion that is more credible. Now let's I really actually hated Codesmith, and wanted to attack them. Why wouldn't I do the same? Why not just ban you all, delete all your comments. Wipe every positive trace of Codesmith on here. I'm responsive all the time, I could easily act on things super quickly and no one would see anything. That's what I've personally exper…

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Censored by Codesmith · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
I don't really know what to say, you seem down conspiracy theory lane and it's just all not true. This post wasn't held up for review. I said very clearly for the record that no accounts have been banned from this sub by me, temporarily or permanently. What's your deal? Do you have questions thoughts? As someone pointed out, a major part of the problem is no-one from Codesmith or otherwise never discusses or refutes the things I say with facts, it's all just made up stuff and bullying. A year or two ago people used to, and then I talked to those people and they say what I do and then they disappeared and we keep in touch on LinkedIn every so often. I meticulous document, screenshot, capture, record, collect anything that I reporting facts on to show my work. if you want to mudsling and play games you haven't seen the half of what I know. And this why INTEGRITY is important, becau…

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Censored by Codesmith · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Want to know the best defense to bullshit trolls... INTEGRITY. No matter how much I get poked I play by the rules and I have integrity. I have one account and I hope anyone making fake accounts to manipulate discussion gets banned for life. I HAVE NOT BANNED A SINGLE PERSON FROM THIS SUBREDDIT. If you can't fathom someone who is as responsive and productive as me then put yourself in a better network of people before this kind of bullshit.

Censored by Codesmith · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
I told one person about it who called it yelling, another called it not yelling but a stern tone. A current Codesmith student say this session and messaged me to apologize because they thought it was yelling and they were disturbed by it and felt bad for me. The video was since removed so I don't think I can share anything from it, have to look up the rules and laws. I don't want to fan any flames. Regardless of what he said in the video there are clearly some frustrations outside the context of the actual speech and sharing it would require full interpretation. I'm a rule follower and they have the right to remove me from their communities if they want for whatever reason and I have to respect that ban.

Censored by Codesmith · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
I attended an event recently and this is what I said in the chat throughout the entire event. 1. Early in Will was talking about one of my long time friends as the "founder" of React and "co-founder of Vercel". Maybe I misheard but I said in the chat that I know that person well and he doesn't call himself the founder of React and co-founder of Vercel. Will responded to that with 'Tom said gest things about you, that you were one of the best engineers ever at Facebook' 2. Will suggested someone talk to a specific alumni and I said how awesome that alumni is. 3. Will mentioned the B1M YouTube channel and I said how awesome that channel is. Then suddenly I got an email saying I was permanently banned from Codesmith's subreddit. 4. I commented that I was just banned from their subreddit and won't be able to participate in the AMA after. Their was no response. 5. Shortly after Will w…

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⚠️ WARNING: Codesmith subreddit is mostly propaganda (resharing Codesmith content without full context and boosting with positive comments from accounts that mostly post about Codesmith only). Challenges and negative comments are called "lies" and you get banned. BE SMART AND THINK CRITICALLY. · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
I didn't ask for formal comment no. I can't remember but I think it was either a codesmith account on Reddit, a comment on LinkedIn thread, or that I commented on or it was in a live stream over the past few months as they have been showing slides with Alex Zai giant face teasing the upcoming AI/ML. It wasn't for official comment no and I wouldn't say that I asked formally enough or clearly enough to expect them to reply though. I am banned from Codesmith's community, Slack, events, entirely so I have limited avenues as I intend on fully respecting their ban. Although they started sending me emails inviting me to events so I'm not sure anymore haha. The whole operation just has so many issue in executing the details you know and I'm always confused if they are intentionally sharing so much data (which common sense says they shouldn't) but then they acknowledge the problems.

Don't go to Codesmith from a Codesmith alumni · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
It quite frankly is, I posted about this here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/codingbootcamp/comments/1dpyh7t/warning\_codesmith\_subreddit\_is\_mostly\_propaganda/](https://www.reddit.com/r/codingbootcamp/comments/1dpyh7t/warning_codesmith_subreddit_is_mostly_propaganda/) OP was banned from their sub today because of their post HERE.

Don't go to Codesmith from a Codesmith alumni · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
I'm not a lawyer either and I chatgpt'd to try to analys it in forming my opinion. I think my opinion is reasonable but open for debate and I still don't agree with your interpretation either haha. But I concede it's not explicitly stated "you cannot be paid directly or indirectly" for reviews. Zooming out, let's say Course Report says this is totally fine (I reported it to them already). I'm going to post about it, and I don't think it will look good. Someone has to take responsibility for manipulating online reviews whether everyone else does it or not. I know at my company we have never once offered anyone anything to write a review. We used to indirectly say long ago 'Reviews are important for people deciding on their options, consider writing one on quora' but I felt that was even not good so we removed it. We don't do it, and I'm offended others and everyone can be wrong even if…

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⚠️ WARNING: Codesmith subreddit is mostly propaganda (resharing Codesmith content without full context and boosting with positive comments from accounts that mostly post about Codesmith only). Challenges and negative comments are called "lies" and you get banned. BE SMART AND THINK CRITICALLY. · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Hi, unlike in your sub, I'm not going to ban you and delete this for "lies" because I want to try to get more on the same page. Feel free to DM me if you want to talk more because this comment is making me really sad the way you are characterizing what I'm saying and we're on very different pages. 1. I'm sorry Andrea feels that way. I honestly have no idea who she is, other than that she's a moderator of the sub and I apologize if she felt attacked by that statement. I do stand by the statement, that it was shared as the official rules and the entire body is written as "we". I have documented the post for myt archived and think that a reasonable person would interpret this the way I did. If she didn't mean to post on behalf of Codesmith, she can edit the post to clarify that as well. I'll also edit my copy to remove references to that post to help reset that. 2. A number of people who…

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⚠️ WARNING: Codesmith subreddit is mostly propaganda (resharing Codesmith content without full context and boosting with positive comments from accounts that mostly post about Codesmith only). Challenges and negative comments are called "lies" and you get banned. BE SMART AND THINK CRITICALLY. · r/codingbootcamp

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
This is a totally fair comment so it wouldn't deleted and you shouldn't feel that way. I think it's an excellent comment with a tone open for discussion, I wish more of them were like this! 1. Codesmith's co-founder Alex Zai, told me to clear the record that he is not currently involved in the AI curriculum and hasn't been since DSML shutdown, and specifically that Zoox is not involved in any way in the curriculum either nor has he worked on since working at Zoox. He told me that he asked Codesmith to not represent that he is working on this currciulum. I don't have an analogy for you but maybe it's like Juliard saying they have a brand new course created by Adam Driver, when Adam Driver created some materials years ago when he was TA'ing and those materials were used inside of this new course. I think that's wrong. 2. My data is showing about 45% of people in H1 2023 getting jobs…

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