u/Electrical_Sand_6250 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Hi all, I’m one of the moderatosr over at r/codesmith and speaking to clarify on behalf of Andrea. We’re a community run sub for folks in both the CSX community (Codesmith’s free training program) and Codesmith’s residents to stay up to date, have discussions and share free reso
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Hi, unlike in your sub, I'm not going to ban you and delete this for "lies" because I want to try to get more on the same page. Feel free to DM me if you want to talk more because this comment is making me really sad the way you are characterizing what I'm saying and we're on very different pages.
1. I'm sorry Andrea feels that way. I honestly have no idea who she is, other than that she's a moderator of the sub and I apologize if she felt attacked by that statement.
I do stand by the statement, that it was shared as the official rules and the entire body is written as "we". I have documented the post for myt archived and think that a reasonable person would interpret this the way I did. If she didn't mean to post on behalf of Codesmith, she can edit the post to clarify that as well. I'll also edit my copy to remove references to that post to help reset that.
2. A number of people who received that email from them did contact me because they felt like it was required. The CEO calling these posts "applications" adds to that. If it's not required and optional, again, they should make that clearer in the rules. I have thoroughly documented the posted rules and believe my interpretation is very reasonable even if you disagree.
That said, if my interpretation is reasonable legally, that doesn't mean I don't want to help bridge the gap here. If it's indeed optional I'll bad down from that, but I would highly recommend Codesmith clarify this. One of the people was considering asking Tech Talent Pipeline about this for example and it would help if they clarified.
3. Assume good intent. Just because I'm making a critical point that doesn't mean my intentions are bad.
4. For someone to lie you have to have evidence that they knew what they said was false and said it anyways to hurt people. I haven't lied once in here and it makes me feel bad that you are characterizing it that way. Just like Andrea feels bad and I'm making some changes because I don't want anyone to feel bad, can you try to do the same in return?
My entire mission is about increasing diversity in tech and helping people from non traditional backgrounds in tech have a seat at the table. Some of the gap is systemic and some of it isn't, and I help by helping people address their gaps at getting that seat and having a strong voice in those discussions.