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I seriously think your a troll and I try really hard to treat everyone without assumptions, but like Reddit keeps flagging like ALL of you comments as 'may be from a spammer or someone likely to break rules' I've repeatedly directly answers to you about what Formation is and what we do and why we don't have a concept of a placement rate so I can only assume you are a troll at this point. CA 180 day was 42% or so and this is 43% or so, so they align really well.

I mean I feel bad for the companies too and there are many lessons that should have been learned but weren't. Like when times were good, Codesmith was marketing that anyone who left CIRR it was because their outcomes got worse and that they were above them all by haveing 'transparency'. Now Codesmith's outcomes started tanking (based on 2023 data in California) they haven't published yet. I understand they are still planning on it, but it's April now and results have historically come out in March - last year was mid-late March for example. It's very ironic, that after criticizing everyone for leaving CIRR, they push change the rules to 360 days and then they delay bad results. I expect they will still publish them, if they don't they should just shut down at this point... they have to life with the consequences of past decisions. They can delay them until they have some new data to ca…

https://www.reddit.com/r/codingbootcamp/comments/18cpq98/analysis_of_52_most_recent_codesmith_offers/ Been following since then and the same problem - arguably worse now as more people are placing after 12 months of job searching. There are certainly people who believe the ends justify the means and don't have a problem with this but my problem is just be honest about how it works and don't present a facade of bullshit about creating mid level engineers out of nothing and being insanely defensive about it. Just look at their blog that they released yesterday. Fantastic human being who had a life-changing transition that is undeniably a great outcome for the person. but the story is presented in a completely misleading way. trying to make it seem like this person is crushing it in the industry based on how well codesmith prepared them. Reading between the lines, it looks like the per…

Codesmith people don't put Codesmith on their resume. They list their 3 week project as a year of work experience. I like the idea though and if you actually did do this basically a fake resume that looks like you have 1 to 2 years of work experience. I bet you you will actually get a couple of callbacks and the strategy grads are relying on to get interviews.

When things were good this sub was full of "I got a $150K job, AMA" and people patting everyone on the back. I think it's fine that this sub reflects reality and that's healthy. I know how hard it is for people to break into the industry and if someone does - having a positive and supportive environment helps. But quite frankly - almost everyone who is considering that change right now probably shouldn't. Positive vibes and pats on the back won't get you jobs like they used to. The bootcamp OP mentioned, Codesmith, is struggling with this right now, because it's a positive and supportive place. The CEO said in a video recently that students are basically paying to have unconditional "you can do it support". This worked so well for new people, who had low confidence in their coding, and a lot of potential. It's not working now at all, and even people who want that environment aren't s…

I didn't say it's a scam, I said people think it's a scam or they think it changed their life, it's controversial. But I hear from both people who get jobs don't get jobs and I hear from people who adamantly argued with me on here in support of them change their tune a few years and later. I respectfully talk to everybody who wants to talk to me about anything really.

I'm not trying to take away from your experience, but you should ask yourself - in all of the positively and clapping and emojis and great vibes with your cohort-mates and staff.... the amount of anonymous vitriol I get on here from those same people is something to think about. It looks like a cult documentary where everyone on the inside is devoted and talk about life changing experiences, and people on the outside get attacked. If you love Codesmith so much you will be super mean and personally insult or mock someone online, think about it a bit. My arguments over the years have been professional and legitimate criticism of Codesmith's: 1. claim of creating mid level engineers with zero work experience 2. OSP projects that are not good quality engineering work but portrayed that way 3. the trend of the vast majority of grads exaggerating on their resumes These aren't personal a…

Codesmith is so polarizing it's incredible. They say the truth often lies in between but with Codesmith it doesn't. You drink the Koolaid, ignore the outside world, and just go all in. Or you think critical and ask tough questions and think it's a scam. For years I have been searching for the in between and I've bumped into like 2 people who are genuinely in between. A lot of people who used to drink the Koolaid who stopped.

Only about 100 to 200.or so graduates of Codesmith out of 4000 went to canonical FAANG during the good times. And a number of people are in contract roles and don't stay there. A number of people also get there after a couple years at other companies too, not.inckided in these numbers. It's a great accomplishment but it's extremely rare and wasn't typical in 2019 either. Especially the people who lied on their resumes to get the jobs nowadays don't want anyone to know because they risk losing it if found out as it's almost impossible to get a SWE full time role with zero experience.

I'm not 100% sure - for this program, Netflix has to sign off on things, and then we have to do the paperwork. So all the steps have to happen before we can officially send out acceptance paperwork across different entities, so I can't 100% guarantee any timeframes. I would just hang tight and not make assumptions yet!

The program is motivated by trying to support people from diverse backgrounds, which is why not only the score matter, but the soft-skills, motivation, and demonstrating Netflix values. It's subjective and I totally understand as a student and not having worked at Netflix that it's hard to self-evaluating those aspects either, but those are equally important - we've been doing this program for a few years now and we want to make sure we select/recommend people who **we see signal** of a path to getting hired there