u/EmeraldxWeapon wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Haha what a ride. It really is crazy though when you get to see companies moving goalposts, fudging numbers, placing emphasis on new random metric... "Placement rates? Who cares! Check out the student engagement rate with our new job board!"
u/michaelnovati replied · · edited ★ FEATURED
I mean I feel bad for the companies too and there are many lessons that should have been learned but weren't.
Like when times were good, Codesmith was marketing that anyone who left CIRR it was because their outcomes got worse and that they were above them all by haveing 'transparency'. Now Codesmith's outcomes started tanking (based on 2023 data in California) they haven't published yet. I understand they are still planning on it, but it's April now and results have historically come out in March - last year was mid-late March for example.
It's very ironic, that after criticizing everyone for leaving CIRR, they push change the rules to 360 days and then they delay bad results. I expect they will still publish them, if they don't they should just shut down at this point... they have to life with the consequences of past decisions. They can delay them until they have some new data to cancel it out, but that's also manipulation and people see it.
Anyways, the lesson learned - when times are good always take feedback and keep improving. It's the time to IMPROVE and be most critical, not to grow an ego that you are the best and everything you touch is gold.
I was handing Codesmith a beautiful plate of feedback during the good times that they ignored, defending and did nothing about, in fact they were SO defensive they created a narrative internally that I was a jealous competitor going after them that was completely wrong. So not only did they not take the feedback, they burned all bridges to potentially work with me as a win-win partner.
Anyways, my point is that Codesmith's die hard support of CIRR has been their downfall because no one believes them anymore after all these CIRR games over the past two years.