u/sheriffderek wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
I’m glad people aren’t posting outcomes. This was always more about marketing the school that is was for the students anyway. If you haven’t done enough research - to know / without a doubt - that the school/course/teacher can help you achieve your goal… don’t choose it. It’s tha
u/michaelnovati replied · DELETED · archived copy ★ FEATURED
I don't care either way, but if a program is publishing how amazing their outcomes are when they are good and goes RADIO SILENT when they are bad it pisses me off.
Codesmith's CIRR results tanked so they started publishing random time windows of absolute number of placements and then then even stopped doing that because in the past six months it's like fifty or something and a number of them have been looking for over a year.
I criticize them LEGITIMATELY and they come back with garbage data.
I bet their response to this is 'Michael is an asshole our placements are amazing, we had an average increase in salary over previous work of $70K so far this year! who cares if there aren't as many placements it's take people longer that's fine, it's all about average increase.'
My point is that changing the goal posts and each time telling everyone how "transparent" you are is garbage behavior from people with no integrity.
I don't give a crap if Codesmith is a good intentioned program, if a number of alumni said it changed their lives, etc... my arguments aren't arguing against that and no one will ever take these amazing things away from them.
The problem is the scheming and lying to trick people into having false hope and then gaslighting me for calling them out on it.
Ironically, the employees responsible for this behavior are the only ones left and everyone else has departed at this point... protip Codesmith - look in the mirror and defeat that enemy before coming at me.