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Should I believe bootcamps like Codesmith who still claim grads land mid or senior SWE roles in today’s market

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u/Repulsive-Hall-9636 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

Okay, so this guy for example. No shade to him, but it says here he got a Snr SWE job on Capital One's ML team straight out of Codesmith?! And that others from Codesmith joined recently as seniors [https://www.codesmith.io/blog/from-orchestra-conductor-to-senior-software-enginee

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
1. This person was the equivalent of a top tier low mid-level/high entry level and while he said he had zero experience in that blog post, his LinkedIn says he had a year of "freelancing" experience, so he likely lied about his YOE to get the mid-level job and then performed well to get the senior job. 2. Codesmith alumni (outside of Codesmith itself) cheat on Cap1 interviews by sharing all of the questions they ask and having currently employees feed answers to people for those questions. If he got promoted relatively quickly maybe he deserved the job! But to get the job it's more likely he "hustled" a lot to get it. Many people lie on resumes and cheat on interviews so this isn't a Codesmith thing, but since Codesmith denies any kind of supporting of cheating and lying, they can't get credit for helping with that piece, nor can they take credit for how smart this guy is inherently. So maybe they can take some credit for him being promoted quickly?