CIRR 2025 Standards out - does not close loopholes to force transparency, only change is one that extends the list of reasons to exclude people from the data and increase placement rates on paper - I don't think anyone cares anymore though :(

CIRR 2025 Standards out - does not close loopholes to force transparency, only change is one that extends the list of reasons to exclude people from the data and increase placement rates on paper - I don't think anyone cares anymore though :( CIRR Standards for 2025 are out [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zuNf-58OcxVyY1KnTxnfqhfftiNexb6S/view?usp=drive\_link](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zuNf-58OcxVyY1KnTxnfqhfftiNexb6S/view?usp=drive_link) In a year where bootcamps are disappearing left right and center and pivoting to AI programs and abandoning SWEs, I would have wanted CIRR to tighten up a number of the loopholes in their standard that schools get to exploit. Here is a list of issues I pointed out last year: [https://www.reddit.com/r/codingbootcamp/comments/1bug0lv/linebyline\_critique\_of\_cirr\_standard\_document/](https://www.reddit.com/r/codingbootcamp/comments/1bug0lv/linebyline_critique_of_cirr_standard_document/) Not a single one of these were addressed and the only change this year was that "illness" was added to the list of reasons to exclude someone from the data. One of the biggest problems is that CIRR allows sources like "LinkedIn" to be used to count someone as a placement - while being able to exclude all other information, like salary. We saw a massive drop in Codesmith's placement rate from H1 2022 (about 80%) to H2 2022 (about 60%) and a massive increase in people being marked as a placement via LinkedIn as well (about 10% of all people). The combination of these two mask the fact that outcomes were already tanking and trying to verify placements from LinkedIn spiking could be a sign of grasping at straws from unresponsive alumni to boost numbers. A number of LinkedIns I reviewed showed people with "jobs" listed at open source projects or personal projects, and someone could easily mistake that for a placement. I think it's clear that CIRR's priority is to protect it's bootcamp members and not the students reading it. The person who made the changes to the specification documents worked at a member bootcamp, Codesmith, for a number of years as their 'head of marketing' role.