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Another CIRR school pauses enrollment due to the market. Bootcamps have to face reality or they will not survive 2024. If you are looking at bootcamp that doesn't warn you about the market for bootcamp grads, run for the hills!

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u/michaelnovati posted · ★ FEATURED
Another CIRR school pauses enrollment due to the market. Bootcamps have to face reality or they will not survive 2024. If you are looking at bootcamp that doesn't warn you about the market for bootcamp grads, run for the hills! SOURCE: [https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/launch-academy-announces-strategic-pause-immersive-pamjc/](https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/launch-academy-announces-strategic-pause-immersive-pamjc/) Selected Excerpts: >While our graduates are of high caliber, there is a difficult cognitive leap for hiring managers to overcome when comparing our entry-level graduates with established engineers affected by recent layoffs. With such an ample supply of the latter, it leaves the former at a strategic disadvantage. Even with the best available preparation, there is no substitute for work experience. > With so much seniority in the job market, it's difficult even for the strongest of graduates to find a job. Despite this market downturn and adverse hiring environment, larger competitors still continue to speculatively fill cohorts. Make no mistake, bootcamps survive on tuition dollars, and without students, there is no revenue. With no revenue, there is no business. They will continue to enroll students regardless of market outlook, and we think that's not in the best interest of the bootcamp student. Given our commitment to outcomes, we are pausing code school enrollment until the market improves, and the *whole product* can be a reasonable certainty for our graduates. COMMENTARY: - I appreciate the openness about the thought process behind this decision. - NO ONE IS ABOVE THE MARKET. We saw Rithms CEO be super transparent [here about the market](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOZc1XQ0UE8) and we've shee Launch School's founder be super transparent [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLKHZYX8D78). - Codesmith is absolutely not acknowledging the market openly. They are giving successful alumni free stuff to flood Course Report with reviews, their CEO is touting 'over 15 offers in a week and over an offer a day'. They laid off about 1/3 to 1/2 the staff but only spoke about positive things in [this post](https://www.codesmith.io/blog/tag/full-time-immersive) and while Launch School and Rithm are talking about challenging results in 2023, Codesmith instead brands their drop is results as ["Outsized Opportunities, CIRR and Other Stats That Matter"](https://www.codesmith.io/blog/outsized-opportunities-cirr-and-other-stats-that-matter) **Should you go to a bootcamp in 2024?** MAYBE! It highly depends on you and your unique situation. But be careful! Don't trust a single review, anecdote, "friend", alumni, staff member, **OR CIRR RESULTS** as a decision making factor in 2024. Seek out a bootcamp that is open and transparent about **how** it works and helps you figure out if it will work for you.