u/littleraccoon wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Hey Michael, long time listener, first time caller! Thanks for the time you had put into moderating this sub and trying to present another perspective to the stats that bootcamps put out. I've been mentoring software engineers for about 4.5 years, some of whom are still looking
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Hi, yeah my 2 cents through the lens I mention my OP.
I don't have a pulse on the ratio so I'm not going to guess, but it feels like every entry level engineer, if you didn't go to a top 10 CS school, is a battle right now.
My advice if you have a previous career/training/expertise is to stick to your lane and learning programming to do something more technical in the same space. Instead of aiming for a SWE job, you might take 3 years to become a Support Engineer.
Many of the bootcamps that haven't shut down are offering some kind of AI thing now and transitioning away from pure SWE programs.
An example is let's say you studied nutrition in college and are a personal trainer, this is a realistic trajectory in an AI world:
\- learn to program for free for 1-2 years. build a website/app related to your business
\- integrate payments, build data analysis etc..
\- launch an app for tracking fitness training that is exclusive to your clients (people close to you and who can tolerate bugs and a not great experience), iterate on it
\- integrate with big names like Oura, Withings, etc...
\- get a job in a non technical role at those companies, like support engineer
\- learn as much as you can about the engineering team, try to build something at hackathons or engineering events
\- hope you can maybe become an entry level engineer, or product analyst, or product manager after a few years.