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NPR podcast about the failure/decline of "learn to code", caution and concern these efforts shifted now to "everyone needs AI fluency", fear-based learning that isn't passion-based (well researched and source-based opinions)

r/codingbootcamp

u/jesusonoro wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

Part of the problem is that bootcamp certificates were never verifiable to begin with. An employer gets a PDF that says "completed 12 weeks of React" and has zero way to confirm what that person actually learned or if they even attended. CS degrees at least have accreditation beh

u/michaelnovati replied ·
The podcast doesn't mention bootcamps but it does mention that even tier 3 college CS grads always had the same trouble even when the perception was that anyone with a CS degree can get a job. From my experience at Meta and in the industry, bootcamp grads were also seen as the bottom of the list in priority. The one exception was that for top of funnel DEI initiatives, they considered bootcamp grads alongside a wider net of colleges to try to diversify from just Stanford and MIT grads. But quite frankly the people didn't perform well interviews and companies quickly moved on.