u/ConnectHall4872 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
I may have to start recommending people to Codesmith’s program again. It looks like they may be the only program that can pipe new engineers into the job market. I guess those good student outcomes will keep rolling.
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
We'll see when their next CIRR report comes out. I periodically look at OSLabs-Beta and OpenSourceLabs GitHub projects and check if the students have jobs and the number of people with jobs about six months after graduation seems lower than it historically has been.
The next CIRR report though is people who graduated in 2024, not 2025, so the information will already be outdated. It would be really useful to get six month numbers for H1 2025.
The Codesmith Federal website says 90% of the 5000+ graduates get jobs within a year. Their own CIRR reports dispute that so I'm not sure if that's a preview of the 2024 outcomes or if it's just a mistake.
There also appears to be a new Codesmith FULL TIME program from August 7th, 2026 to November 9th, 2027, which is a whole 15 MONTHS!!! I'm very curious about that option.
Launch School though is crushing Codesmith on six month placement data though in my opinion. There 2024 grads six month placement rate is around 80% of graduates (they quote a lower percentage of starts but to compare to CIRR we need to compare graduates only) and Codesmith's 2023 six month placement was around 40% (and half the people didn't even respond and they guessed if it was a placement based on LinkedIn)