u/peppiminti wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
I'm not going to post about specific students because I don't want to draw attention to individuals, but you have students putting it as "freelance" or "part-time" on Linkedin. That definitely makes it sound paid. I also found students that make it sound like it was work experien
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Resume representation is nuanced argument that you probably understand but most people outside the industry wouldn't.
The vast majority of people are working engineers that don't even think about putting Formation on their resumes. Some people who have been with us a long time - like years - have it on. Some of those people aren't even at Formation and they abandoned the job hunt.
The representation is clear. I have never heard of a recruiter or company thinking that Formation was a job. I can't think of background check someone ever had for Formation as a job.
Codesmith, the vast majority of people put their projects down as a work experience directly adjacent to an Open Source Projects bucket, making it look more like work. The description buries the 'accelerated by OS Labs' in the footer collapsed - if it's there at all.
Part of the mental trick is that they tell you 'Don't lie about your experience, it's only 4 months!' When in fact it's 3 weeks. If you put all your other projects on there overlapping you are double claiming your experience.
Finally people put X -> Present and get sign off and then they take on average a year to get a job and the X -> Present goes from 4 months to 16 months.
I would be more than happy to debate this one out because there are multiple sides to it and it's nuanced.
Is Codesmith responsible and is this the worst thing in the world? No.
Did I tell their CEO about it face to face? Yes.
Did she think it was wrong? Yes.
Is it still happening? Yes.
So there's more to what's going on and I think all sides should be heard.