u/Lifuwrapper wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
I mean of course, I changed my life, but now I feel like we're just getting picky with the wording. I could literally say that about any coaching program I pay for. I knew when I was in codesmith that if I didn't put in the work I wasn't getting a job. Are people expecting codes
u/michaelnovati replied · · edited ★ FEATURED
To me this is the difference:
Like people can 'owe so much to Harvard' and still see the pros and cons of going to Harvard - even if the pros outweigh the cons for you as an individual.
If you 'owe so much to Harvard' and then attack anyone criticizing Harvard for anything, then something is wrong.
When people are in the mindset of 'it changed my life', It comes down to leadership.
I talked to Codesmith's new CEO and said straight up about why I do what I do face to face, so when their founder goes around riling up the community as a 'competitor attacking the community' - that's a cult-like characteristic - turning reasonable and well-researched criticism (even if you find me annoying) into an "us vs them" ideological battle instead of a reasonable debate.
I'm aware of both groups at Codesmith. Many alumni that reach out to me or that I connect with, are very much in the 'I got a good job, the process worked for me, it was worth the money, it had pros and cons'. Some people are like 'codesmith changed my life, you are a piece of crap destroying this incredible community that changes lives'.
I'm very centrist and I want to hear both sides before dismissing, but at the minimum, the latter has gotten be extremely interested in studying Codesmith over the past few years. I've also studied Lambda School/Bloomtech but it's not nearly as fascinating.