u/Fool-Frame wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
DSA is part of the core curriculum, at least when I went. We did LC every day. Also of the people from my cohort that got hired, probably only half of us had to do LC as an interview round, so idk. I don’t recommend Codesmith any more, for what it’s worth. I graduated end of
u/michaelnovati replied · · edited ★ FEATURED
There are a few days of DS&A. I'm possibly one of the industry experts in DS&A and it's laughable to call that sufficient. It's the equivalent of a "sneak peak" without even really getting started.
The idea of hack hours is great, but they are a waste of time because it's you and recent alumni going over problems and no true expert guidance.
So you are wasting your time.
People who have a natural affinity for DS&A don't need this and would be much better off NOT paying $22,500 and learning on their own.
I really wish I could articulate this more - so many things at Codesmith are about putting on the appearance of something legit and I get where their DS&A motivations come from they have to acknowledge how much it sucks.
Instead they celebrate it as the reason people get great jobs.
I've spent SO MANY YEARS really studying all aspects of Codesmith - I know more about it than their current CEO.
There are three factors and only three factors that resulted in their outcomes:
1. Smart and ambitious people
2. Who lie on their resumes (from minor lies to major ones)
3. ... and take advantage of supply-demand imbalance that completely ended in 2023
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Now we're seeing:
1. Lower bar to entrance, removing several layers so people can enter much more quickly
2. Even larger resume exaggerations.
3. And zero market opportunities.
From my very well informed math, there are in the dozens of people placed so far in 2025, down from hundreds.
Their website being down for now 15+ days and them being delusional about the timeframe. It's been 36 hours or so since they said they are getting it back really soon with only one small hurdle to go.
Down to the very end, they are still twisting and misrepresenting the truth.
I'll bring my tone down a notch when they apologize for this mess - which they have yet to do once.