Codesmith is down and they can't access their AWS because of incompetence. I've had enough of their claims to go from "zero to mid/level senior engineers" when they repeatedly demonstrate lack of engineering competence (this isn't the first incident)

I dunno, you seem to now want to be collaborative and that's on you. You never mentioned anything about stating that we do this to make money and I hope that's your opinion and you aren't starting that as a fact because it's provably untrue on our side and I can't see how you have facts to prove that yourself. So if you had this opinion the whole time, you are debating disingenuously. I started the conversation with 'I'll talk to you if you accept the facts' because the facts are important. The average person we work with has 5 years of industry work experience as a SWE. Why would they put a mentorship community Fellowship on their LinkedIn as a job or resume when they currently work at Google or Amazon? It makes no sense whatsoever and why would they not do Formation if the name changed? Like the facts are abundantly clear that very few percentage of people put Formation publicly at all as anything and clearly it's EXTREMELY USELESS if it's still taking them 2+ years to get a job when dozens and dozens of people got jobs this year so far without telling anyone they did Formation and telling us commonlty they want it to be a secret so their employer doesn't find out. Seriously - if we argue the facts we can have productive conversations about Formations problems and weaknesses that we are constantly trying to improve and instead we're talking about something largely largely irrelevant.