u/Equal-Delivery7905 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
I am sure the original concept of bootcamp, and hence the majority of bootcamps, are not. But what I am saying is that there are exceptions - good schools, academies, bootcamps, programas (call them whatever you want) that are built differently and can provide that support. That’
u/michaelnovati replied ·
I mean there are definitely going to be more and more lifelong learning opportunities with AI, not just for Engineers but every job and it's going to be normal to continuously upskill.
Boot camps though are putting you through a $20 udemy course with accountability and community and all these other things that you're paying like $10,000 for. and the problem right now is that those things are not worth the $9,880 because it's virtually impossible for a junior engineer to get a job right now with zero experience.
So like if a boot camp is pivoting to try to Target more experienced people that might be okay too. but what I'm seeing from the top boot camps is really just the same old, same old boot camp curriculum that's a $20 Udemy course... or just free chatGPT generated
And that is the dilemma because those boot camps don't have the experience to work with people who are more experienced and you can't kind of fake it or make up for that lack of experience. it's a fundamental problem for those boot camps so they're really struggling and a lot are just shutting down and moving on to something else.
The worst of the worst are places that have made hardly any changes to their program and continue to target people with no experience and then start just flat out lying that they take you to mid-level engineer with zero experience. focusing on marketing what they already have and touting people who got overlevelled jobs from lying on their resumes as proof what they already have works, instead of actually making changes and improvements to the underlying program.
So short answer. yes you're right that it really depends. but the long answer is that there isn't really a place for the typical 0 to 1 boot camp anymore.