u/Jayytimes2 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
>Expecting to get a software engineer job is almost hopeless though Why you say that? Do you think the job market for engineers will be over soon?
u/michaelnovati replied · DELETED · archived copy ★ FEATURED
Hopeless but not impossible yeah.
So look at Codesmith's stats since we're talking about them and they release numbers.
2021 grads: about 90% of grads placed within 6 months
2022 grads: about 80% of grads placed within 6 months
2023 grads: about 40% of grads placed within 6 months (and very notable that there was a huge double digit percentage increase in people who ghosted Codesmith and got counted as a placement because of LinkedIn
2024 grads: no data yet, but based on Codesmith's little bits of data there have been about 250 offers in h2 2024 -> h1 2025, which covers some 2022 grads, 2023 grads, 2024 grads, and then 2024 grads.
Now enrollment has declined because they cutback from 4+1 to 1+1 cohorts in Feb 2024 so it's hard to tell what the placement rates are but they definitely aren't good.
Codesmith also should have plenty of information about 2024 grads now that i's 6 months post graduation for every student (nevermind a full YEAR of data on h1 2024 grads)
But Codesmith claims "transparency" following the CIRR process as a bad excuse to not give any kind of indication how bad things are.
The 2023 report above was published just in April 2025 and in 2024 they had early indications how much things dropped but they continued to talk about great 2022 numbers "waiting for official 2023 numbers".
Oh... and because of the terrible results they switched to reporting 360 day outcomes instead of 6 months outcomes so they can show those better numbers.
They are twisting and manipulating reality to create an illusion that it's very likely you'll get a job, when in fact it's not.
Look at those placements too and the people have tangential experience and others lie significantly about their 4 week long Codesmith projects - branding them as 1+ years of work experience on their resumes.
It's a giant facade in my opinion, an illusion and a magic trick to fool you.
Please be smart and critical.