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LinkedIn Post - Bootcamps vs. CS Degrees

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u/AngeFreshTech wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

Will you put Launch School (Core + Captsone or Just Core) in the same group as those bootcamp you are talking about ? Or do you think it is one of the exception? I know they do not consider themself as a bootcamp, but they are not a university either and I understand they focus

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
It's the exception, not because it doesn't have troubles from the market too but because they are marketing themselves as the "slow path" to becoming a Software Engineer. More people will try and few will succeed but they won't be mislead or burned with it. Now because of this philosophy it hyper optimizes for people making it through Capstone that are actually good fits and they actually get jobs, but it's relatively small compared to typical bootcamps. But the fact that they have a 70% six month placement rate (accounting for every student, down from 100%) that is quite high when somewhere like Codesmith has a 40% six month placement rate (when including ghosters based on LinkedIn) shows why this slow and stead approach works. Financially though it works because Launch School is small and founder run. Their founder teaches and helps people. Codesmith has a bunch of directors and managers that cost money, they have ads that cost money, highly polished videos that cost money. So they need people in the seats. I was informed by someone that one or more staff are upset at Codesmith reducing the number of steps to get accepted and perceiving it as lower the bar due to lower admissions and enrollment tanking. This is the kind of thing the new CEO is doing with a product and business had on as a business vice president, that Launch School will never do because it's just the founder. It might save Codesmith the company, but they might be unintentionally selling their reputation with it, especially given the tanking placement rates. Rithm School was similar to Launch School in all those ways and the founders just called it quits and moved on to Anthropic leading education there. Codesmith has burned so much reputation I don't see any company like Anthropic hiring their leaders away anymore.