u/Gullible_Mousse_4590 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
https://preview.redd.it/upc4h2kxdr8f1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8c30e13d1db946aa45e3db5cca10f2935b2c4cc2 Haven’t you been saying that people have to have a CS degree? And isn’t this your website? Probably don’t throw stones in glass houses
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
That stat is correct and it's about 45% so far in 2025 so close but a bit lower.
The average YOE for 2025 placements so far is (full time SWE experienceprior to Formation): **5.5 YEARS**
This means that people had bootcamps, self taught, and other degrees, worked for 5 years, came to Formation, and then got a better job.
What is wrong with that?
Here are the 10 or so most placement companies : Udacity, Amazon, Gurus Solutions, Meta, Meta, Meta, Headspace, Stripe, AppleCart, PayPal, Applied Intuition, Meta, NVIDIA
These are stronger placements than 2024.
What is wrong with that?
**I'm happy to take feedback to improve our marketing so please give it but I want to make sure it's clear that the stuff on our website is accurate for starters.**
Will is faking his background yes - he has never really been an engineer ever - and then he spent 10 years focused on superficial appearances of Codesmith instead of actually building something. The materials and pedagogy really haven't changes for years, no engineering codebase of value, no curriculum of value, there's no IP there. He was solely focused on building a brand and a community whose value has almost disappeared in the past two years and therefore he's left with almost nothing because there was no intrinsic value in what he did.
Frontend Masters for example was an investment that people pay money for and the content there is IP with intrinsic value.
This sounds absurdly offensive but it's just the truth and if you don't confront the truth you can't grow.