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Codesmith marketing campaign: "you’re not late to tech". Unfortunately you likely are, and this kind of thing is tone deaf and misleading. Instead of making changes in their program structure they are marketing a 10 year old program structure as if it still works and please don't fall for it.

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u/jcasimir wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

I think scale is important to consider. If Codesmith were planning to train and graduate 25,000 software devs a year, yeah I would have concerns. But if it’s 250? 500? It’s not that those folks have an easy path, but it is still very possible. I was just in a meeting where I wa

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
It's not about getting the role, it's about the next 5 years and what AI is going to do with that. Codesmith's results were from people exaggerating resumes and Codesmith looked the other way. AI will replace you if you were lying and getting by by sheer hustle. AI works 24/7. AI can parallelize 1000 tasks. The only think AI can't beat yet is the taste that comes through SWE experience. IMO, there is no alternative right now, just don't change careers and learn programming for free on the side slowly over a couple of years. I'm very confident in the next 5 to 10 years 1. We'll know what all the new jobs AI created are 2. We'll be able to train people for those jobs quickly with bootcamps - but the demographics might look different than bootcamps today with smaller deltas each time around and people aren't becoming "programmers", they are Accountatns becoming like AI Accountants. 3. Because no juniors being hired now, when we need SWEs to help build tools for those AI Accountants, we'll need more SWEs in general and we won't have them, so we'll have talent wars for experienced AI-SWEs to build AI tools for all kinds of super-non-tech companies. And if AI is good enough, those AI-SWEs will meet the demand, if it's not, we'll need more SWE. 4. People that actually want to become SWEs will go to college and go through years and years of apprenticeships and rotations and learnings to build taste to actually work on SWE products and it won't be something bootcampable. Finally - 250 individual stories is doable, Launch School is doing it because their founder is hustling hard and knows each student's name. Codesmith's founder is working on a new Frontend Masters course and writing a book about AI and gave up helping each and every graduate get a job. So it's maybe possible, but Codesmith is not the answer.