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u/jcasimir wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

I had an interesting conversation last week where it was highlighted that 2016-2020, bootcamps really didn't work that well overall. Across the industry there was downsizing, consolidation, many programs pulling out of data reporting like CIRR, etc. I think programs that were s

u/michaelnovati replied · · edited ★ FEATURED
My stance is in those days was that bootcamps worked for extremely ambitious young professionals with lots of savings. People that were successful in life already in various ways (ivy league, other career, naturally brilliant and doing well but had tough circumstances holding them back) and wanted to transition to SWE. This is not a perfect analogy but I visited slums in Mumbai expecting the people there to be really struggling to get by without any jobs and such. Instead I found out that the slums are like mini factories and people in the 'top tier slums' are actually extremely ambitious people - generally the 'breadwinner' of the family coming from all over India and staying there temporarily to make money. The work they did was like melting plastic and toxic stuff that is definitely bad for people's health, but they were there hopefully as a stepping stone to better jobs by saving enough money. There's a certain type of person that bootcamps always worked for and will still work for. I get very concerned with bootcamps market those people as the typical case and saying things like Codesmith does 'you could be next'