u/Secure-Ad-9050 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
feel bad for the people caught up in this, but, at the end of the day they chose to do a bootcamp- I don't fault them too much for this as bootcamps adds tend to be predatory. As far as I am concerned, it was just another scamcamp, as all coding bootcamps are, folding. Yes,
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Codesmith is pumping out marketing about their most recent outcomes as exceptional outcomes, even though they tanked - and while they acknowledge the market they pat themselves on the back still. Internally almost all their lead instructors quit or were laid off except for one - who is now leading two entire tracks (as of two weeks ago) - and one person who has been teaching for a few months was promoted to be a lead instructor as well.
I'm exhausted with leaders, like Turing too, who want to pour their heart and soul into something with such good intentions but seeing all of that passion make people delusional - desperately trying to keep the thing alive without realizing the industry is burning down.
I admire Launch Academy for pausing gracefully, and a few others that explicitly opted to 'preserve their legacy' (their words) and shut down instead of taking the industry's credibility with them.
It's not bad intentioned at all but Turing's flip flopping is going to impact the remaining bootcamps. Who the hell would go to Codesmith or Hack Reactor when one of the best (and CIRR) schools Turing, 42 days ago was promising to finish out [2025 and had partnerships and a plan to do so](https://www.reddit.com/r/codingbootcamp/comments/1j3cc7n/the_present_and_future_of_the_turing_school/) and then abruptly shut down.
Ask yourself - if a school has to now proactively explain to you that they aren't shutting down soon and to trust them, it's like an MLM proactively explaining to you they are super legit and not a pyramid scheme. Something is not right and you need to be careful, and most people who are going are drinking the Kool Aid and it's a matter of time until they get sick and realize what they did.